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Remember when I was posting some journals about artist taboos and I had a couple more to talk about? Here's one of them, though it doesn't just relate to artists it's just kinda an all around taboo I wish would end.

Perceived Rivalry Hatred

Basically it works like this: You say you dislike something and immediately get attacked by people who either defend the thing you said you disliked, or accuse you of being a supporter of it's supposed rival (whether this has any basis in reality or not). It also works on things you like, things you're indifferent to, or anything really. EVERYTHING has a supposed default rival. Movies, TV, Video Games, Ideologies, Words, Phrases, etc. Everything.

Say you're an atheist? Automatically means you hate all Christians.
Say you like the X-Box 360? Automatically means you hate Sony.
Say you like the PS3? Automatically means you hate Microsoft.
You liked a Marvel movie? Guys you hate the DC stuff.
You like Chocolate Ice Creme? Fuck you and your vanilla bias!
Love Simpsons? Must mean you hate Family Guy!
Like Family Guy? Must mean you hate South Park!
You liked the Jack Nicholson's Joker? How dare you disrespect Heath Ledger!
You like western animation? What've you got against ANIME you otaku hater?
Have an issue with the way women are portrayed in media? YOU MUST BE A FEMINAZI! BURN THEM!
Like Hunger Games? Hey! We have this series called Harry Potter, maybe you should read it you noob.

Of course, none of this stuff is actually written down anywhere. It's just sort of a general assumption that a vast majority of people make, and it can fluctuate between individuals quite a bit, to the point where some people will come in and not have any idea that there is even a problem and get attacked for not knowing something so "obvious!"

And when it comes to art it can get pretty ugly. Giving any sort of critical analysis on a work automatically translate into you being a hater or someone who hates the artwork itself, which is kinda silly too. There are plenty of movies and books that I absolutely ADORE that have stuff in them I don't like. Being critical of that doesn't mean I HATE it. In fact, more often than not, when someone is critical of something that usually means they LOVE it.

I'm so sick to death of this perceived binary argumentative mindset. It gets in the way of civilized discussion by automatically assuming that the opposing side is inherently "wrong" or "invalid." It makes people attack and be defensive, rather than respond intellectually. It's just ugly and misguided nonsense I really wish would stop.

Everything is just so... ANGRY all the time. I know text on the internet can be hard to decipher inflection and tone and what not, but I'd like to think that it's possible that people can overcome this and not just leap to the default setting of "OMG SOMEONE IS ATTACKING THIS THING I LIKE" and rushing to it's defense instead of having a polite conversation where ideas and values are expressed and discussed. Call me naive or optimistic, but I think we as a human race are better than that.
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013   Writer

I know what you mean...

 

I love both Marvel and DC ((I mean c'mon people, pointy-eared odd-colored dudes are totally win, especially since it was X-Men Evo that got me hooked on TT))
Digimon and Pokémon are both amazing ((Though I'm kinda wishing Pokémon would just quit now - I love it and all, but when you make Jessie become "Jessimina" Or whatever she's called now, that's when you should've stopped))
I like pairings of practically any nature ((But I see them as who it's portraying, not what sexuality it is. That said, I can't deny that I like gay pairings more often than straight ones))
I believe in God, but I don't agree with everything in Christianity. ((Case in point - I'm getting my hair cut tomorrow))
South Park icks me with a passion, but if someone likes it, so what?
I like both the older and newer Alvin And The Chipmunks

I'm fairly laid back, and always try to show respect for others, because I know that everyone is different. I believe that everyone can like what they like, dislike what they dislike, and be so-so what they want, as long as:
A) They aren't being harmful/hurtful to others. ((Hopefully not themselves either, but it's their life, and all I can do is try to make suggestions))
B) They stay civil about it and respect my decision as I try to do to them.
c) They don't just assume without getting the facts. ((It only makes an "ASS" out of "U" and "ME"))
d) If someone's uncomfortable with/flatly against you, they don't bring it up and cause an argument.

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tangleddreams Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Omigod so true. 
"You don't believe in god? Jerk."
" you play portal? Wtf you're a girl play a dress up game or play wow not that crap."
"You like superheroes? Lesbian.
"You watch mlp? You need to grow the fuck up".
I have heard these before. Not fun. And lets not forget the art veraions
"You use a mobile? You are always gonna be terrible".
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SpyroLUVA Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Oh god this pisses me off!  This is responsible for the hate half of my love/hate perspective on fandoms.
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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student General Artist
God, this happens to me all the time.
And I see it EVERYWHERE.
The fandoms... jeez, they need a chill pill for bleeding starters...
How come this only has 132 (not including mine) favs... and just 4518 views?
People should she this more.
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1ROCKoutLOSERr1 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Its disliking one class tree and liking another even though the its the class tree for the SAME character, I mean come on, I can always make that class if i wanted to >_>
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PokeSpeBanette Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
that's....actaully true.
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Gold-Oromis Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
And then the person is falsely accused to be a troll...-_-
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Janemba-Junior Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It goes for characters too, since i said i love Cell from DBZ they all think i hate Gohan and Goku, but nooope i actually had a crush on Gohan until i saw he was meant for Videl. XD
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AshpodThePortalFur Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are a furry? Keep your fetish and zoophilia to yourself.
You like Mario? Stop hating on Sonic!
You like Pokemon? There's a thing called MLP.
You like MLP? There's this thing called growing up. 
You like Portal? WTF is Portal, play CoD!

True story, though I'm not much of a MLP fan. 
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Chillywolf123 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
I came across this by accident after being attacked for saying I'm atheist and you thanks to you I know that there are still reasonable people out there

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llirbwerdnadivad Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
I don't get it, myself...but so many people seem to do this...

atheists get angry at me, thinking I'm religious, religious people get angry at me, thinking I'm atheist...it's not even targeted towards people who dislike a certain belief, people just go after whoever questions it...
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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student General Artist
Urgh.
Thats horrible to hear.
I got attacked in real life by an regilous person because I had said to a friend I was an aethiest.
I really don't know why humanity is so... angsty...
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llirbwerdnadivad Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
From what I've heard, most religions even speak against attacking people like that...
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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013  Student General Artist
I know.
All that love they fellow man, and then all hat hate...
Jeez, they love their hipocatsy
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013   Writer

You said it! One of my friends is Christian, all that "love thy fellow man" stuff... then he turns around and hates on gays and foreigners :facepalm:

 

Another guy had a sign that practically said "Don't love other men, love Jesus" and I couldn't help but think "Yeeeah, and Jesus is a whatnow?"

 

That said - I am Christian, and I always try to respect others, and actually FOLLOW the love thy fellow man thing.

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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeah.
I know how many hypocrits are out there.
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013   Writer
Too many if you ask me.
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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Student General Artist
Basic human nature...
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SF01 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
It's like the fans of Ozzy hating Dio and shouting that nothing released between 1979 and 1998 by Black Sabbath is a Black Sabbath record.
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Ralij Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not sure it is sheer opposites though, most people understand diction and syntax on a subconscious level and others react to it without even realizing why. I've seen people who support x,y,z put up reasons why but do so in a manner that puts the opposite in an offensive light even if they didn't intend to. 
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wolves-and-dangos Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This person.
This person knows what he is talking about.
He does.
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PunchieTheNeko Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Student Filmographer
I hate when people do that.
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Paladin343 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I try to do that, though I admit I've leapt to yours' and others' defense when it wasn't required a few times.

(On the related note of civility on the internet, have you heard of Randy Cassingham's newsletter This Is True? It's a little pocket of sanity in my inbox, weekly.)
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DeWolfie Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've learnt over the years, that showing respect sometimes means one's ability to shut the fuck up. The problem is after all, that people seem to take it all too personal. They might be taking on with pleasantry to be branded as "trolls" or "haters" as if it's some sort of glorified title of the internet. Well, we need to expose them for what they are; assholes, idiots and really bad people.

Don't be hindered by the "this is internet after all".
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VaporeonChan Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013
I dunno how to feel
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Roos-Skywalker Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am afraid only the more intelligent part of the human race is better than that.
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CyrodilicPenguin Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
it's unfortunate that many people have this mindset. in reference to your examples;
i am an atheist, but i don't hate christians, muslims, jews (obviously for me since i am ethnically jewish), etc. i DO hate, however, religious fanatics who would see others suffer because they were not "in the right religion" or "because it was against god."
i like the 360, but i prefer sony as that was my childhood console.
i like marvel, but i prefer DC.
ice cream's ice cream. like whatever flavor you want.
okay with simpsons and family guy. like the old, not the new.
prefer ledger because he was creepy as hell.
i like anime and western animation equally, since i grew up with them.
women should be treated with more respect and dignity, and no, not all feminists are feminazis.
hunger games was, for me, on the same level as harry potter.
now, if people actually had half a brain, they would not assume that i hate the "rival" because there is no rival. most of the time anyways. and if more people had this mindset, we wouldn't have the issue of binary hatred.
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013   Writer

I agree with the Simpsons and Family Guy thing :nod:

And the "don't hate religions" thing ((But I'm Christian))

 

As for everything else, exactly!

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Rogue343 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student General Artist
Argeed.
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missyhannah78 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yes I know the feeling , its sad that most think this way and act this way...BUT IT JUST DOWN RIGHT PISSES ME OFF :iconibaramadplz:
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Maplestrip Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013
I just hate it when people look at something so black and white... Though I also absolutely love saying that someone is wrong when that happens:

Like Family Guy? Must mean you hate South Park! -Actually, I love South Park. Great tv series. "oh..."
You like western animation? What've you got against ANIME you otaku hater? -Actually, I love anime. I've watched all of these. "oh..."
Like Hunger Games? Hey! We have this series called Harry Potter, maybe you should read it you noob. -I have actually read all Harry Potter books. They aren't bad :) "oh..."

I mean, what is more fun than seeing the look on their typography after you say stuff like that and say which you like more and all? I just love criticizing something, especially after someone becomes defensive. Because that's when you can actually show how stupid they are acting.
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jijikit Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree and have lost a few friends back on LiveJournal because of this sort of mindset.  I agree - why can't we all be civil and able to talk about things without it being full out war?
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neoaristar Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed, good sir. It certainly is more difficult to have a 'discussive' disagreement as opposed to an 'argumentative' disagreement. Everyone is locked within their own heads, and everyone holds their own beliefs to be true (the very definition of belief, really), which makes this 'binary' state a natural reaction. It's hard to set aside default for something out of the ordinary.
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Bronwen-Amaia Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So true it's scary sometimes.
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KyuremObsession Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with you. People are so spazzy sometimes.
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AshpodThePortalFur Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I see those icons everywhere. But I love yours XD
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KyuremObsession Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!
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AshpodThePortalFur Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:3
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Rainiila Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is so very, very true. 
I'm not even going to bother saying anymore.
Thank you.
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SpiderMilkshake Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
I love the Redwall series so much I just can't help but tear apart its inconsistencies and fantastical racism. :meow: See? I'm not a hater! I just realize my favorite fantasy series isn't perfect...

It also doesn't mean that I automatically hate Warriors. I've never read Warriors... sadly.

See defensive people? That was easy! :icondummydanceplz:
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EtherealGaming205 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've read both, and love both. I hate how spazzy people are about there fandom!
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gg8helper Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wut. I like the Harry Potter and Huger Games Series. .-.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???
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silvermoon822 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I hear this one 100%. I would LOVE to receive critique but people won't give it because of this unspoken feeling, and any critique I've given in the past is met with others (or the artist themselves) accusing me of hating. That's not true. I'm trying to help the artist improve and I want to improve myself. 
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013   Writer
Well, I'm always happy for Critiques on :iconbetterscarletmystery: if you wanna give them. And if you want me to try to critique something of yours, just link me and I'll try my best :meow:
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ZincFrost Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
So very true. I hate it when people assume that just because I do not support something it means I despise all the people that practice or/and support it. I don't hate anyone, but I don't agree with everyone either, and that should be okay.
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BIUmphress Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
What you are describing sounds like the False Dilemma fallacy, where only two opposing options are presented as the only options while alternatives are hidden.  This frustrates me too, so it isn't you.
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nickworcester Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Student General Artist
Opinions are like assholes.
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luna-is-best-pony1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013
i cant lick your opinion
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nickworcester Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Take it with a grain of salt then.
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luna-is-best-pony1 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
how bout some whipped cream?
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