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So the good news is that the new technique of posting a preview image with a link to my website does indeed generate quite a bit more of extra activity to my ad revenue generating pages. From the few tests I’ve done so far I get on average an extra 2-3,000 views than when I post the comic on DA with a link.

The bad news is that this means it’s in my best interest to post more stuff on my various websites, and not on DA. Which is problematic because I enjoy interacting with my fans here on DA far more than I do on my website. I like having everything kinda all together in one place and this new technique kinda disrupts that flow. While it’s in my best interest, it also kinda feels a little cheap and annoying.

Maybe I’ll be able to combine the two at some point, updating the older previews with the full comics/art like a few weeks down the road, but I don’t know. It’s also sadly likely in my best interest to update all my older strips that are still popular with links to my website instead, thus helping continue to generate advert revenue for me and make living my life as a comic artist a bit more fruitful.

This is one of those things that bug me about being an artist. I hate putting watermarks or previews and etc on my work because I want to give my fans the cleanest possible artwork to spread around and enjoy. But art thieves, money, and advert revenue force me to go against my instincts.

So I dunno how to feel. On the one hand, it clearly works better than how I’ve been doing it. But on the other hand I feel like I’m givin’ y’all spam.

Thoughts?
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AkanaAkazen Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014
You could post sketched versions of the comics with a link to the final comic on your site or something? Or without the colors vs with?
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Catch-Me-If-Ya-Can Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Student General Artist
I like how you post the cartoons telling us your website has a new comic on it. I always go, but you don't have to put one up for every time it's updated. It's more enjoyable when I visit the site and flip through seeing three or four new comics rather than just one which frustrates me because I am eager to read more. It's like waiting for the next episode of a tv show to come out and dying when the episode ends :)
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RedEyeBlue Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Ever look up Yamino on here? She posts announcements for her comic's updates as art submissions too.  She typically just posts an icon with the link to the comic below rather than a preview. I think it works for her, so why can't you continue to do the same?  
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meggyville2009 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014  Hobbyist
You know better than anyone what works for you, so I would say you should do what is true to you.
The fans who loves you will more than understand whatever you choose and those that don't are free to voice there own opinions which most of the time comes out as idiocy.
Those that rant at you for making an inconvenient decision on there end will have to adjust their panties.
Remember this quote, "Do not argue with a fool, they may be doing the exact same thing. Do not agree with a fool, or you'll both be wrong."
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RedRodent Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014   Digital Artist
I don't care at all if you have to do a preview and link to make things work, dude. I just enjoy reading your comic, s'all.
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ashesonfire Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I say keep it.

You'll weed out your non-dedicated fans, and trolls that way. Also if they are true fans that love your work and want to support you, then they'll be happy to click a few extra links in order to help you make your living.  It's every artists dream to make money off of what they love to do.  Good luck :D
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MyrkSuki Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
Part of the problem is your comic site requires another login to chat. I'm just a bit lazy to log into a dead conversation, let alone sign up. Personally I track it all by RSS anyway, so I'm cool with either. 
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GodOfIrony Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just post the link, dude. Nothing wrong with using mega-sites to direct traffic over to yours.
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888poke Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
For me it's easier to look at you art here on DA, simply because most of the times I have the chance to view your art it's over a school internet system with rules about browsing, and most personal sites (Yours unfortunately being on that list) are flagged by the browsing proxys and blacklisted.

I don't have that problem at home, but most times when I'm at home I'm either working on something important, or with family.
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GaEv Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
"Maybe I’ll be able to combine the two at some point, updating the older previews with the full comics/art like a few weeks down the road"

I think this would be a good approach, it is very similar to the approach that was taken with posting brentalfloss comics to your deviantart account.
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earthalchemyst Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
At the very least, I can deal with this method; I understand your reasons, you're being upfront and asking for feedback about it, AND it doesn't disrupt me too much.
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I apologize if you aren't looking for suggestions, but have you tried the following?

Keep at least a backlog of one strip as well as the current strip you are working on at all times, then post one on DA, with a link to the new strip on your website.  Then, when you create the next new strip, submit the one originally from your website on DA, with the new strip on your website, and so on.  

:icondrunken-novice: does this with his Twogag comic, and I find it pretty effective, just IMHO.
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damekage Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Student General Artist
I read your comics on your website strictly because I know it generates ad revenue for yourself. I found you here to see any other stuff you might post here that isn't related to your webcomics.
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Maple-Girl Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
You have to make a living, and I don't mind an extra click or two, that takes what, 10 seconds? I don't have a feed thing, 'cause I'm slightly tech inept, so I like having the links to there from DA.
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Starsister12 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally understand wanting to generate revenue.  I mean, artists have to eat too, right?  As long as you still post links on dA with the previews to your site, I think folks will still go read/look at them.  It only takes an extra click; we still get to see your art and you make a little more money.  Sounds like a win-win to me.  And with the way the internet is, watermarks and previews can be a pain, but it help protect the artist.  And if you decide to upload older comics later down the road on dA, that would be pretty cool as well. 
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Raph1966 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Personally I like your work here but I could view it both here and on your website. As long as I get to see it, it's fine with me. :D
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Neo-Zander Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Feels alright to me dude, for something like your comic I'd go to another site.

Thankfully it doesn't have a bunch of annoying ads, your site is one of the few I care about enough to white list on my AdBlock+ 

... That reminds me, I need to donate a little more often... 
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Sakamura Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Professional Photographer
IMHO, dA was one of the communities that embraced your style and genre. I understand the fact of growing out of it, and you are right, it will work out fine on the short term. But people will just unwatch and you'll be left with only the hardcore fans.

Your deviations made 50K, 100K views on dA. You just acknowledged 3K views, and probably you will get a dozen more here and there, counterbalanced with hundreds leaving ship, you got 56K+ viewers, that would mean 53K+ people being pissed off and not caring.  I also wouldn't see you doing the front page or be featured anymore with mere small-size previews. So you probably wouldn't get these lucky breaks on dA.

Please do make your web site thrive, enjoy it. But making previews will just remove your fanbase on dA. Consider alternatives with a "hey my comics are there".
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Maplestrip Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
"updating the older previews with the full comics/art like a few weeks down the road" - I myself always loved this technique, and I think you should do it like this. People will always want to see your artwork asap, but you won't lose any fans about it over here either, as you'll continue to upload them here as well.

I am also completely fine with the preview system, but it is a bit... I dunno, you probably know what I mean >.> Continue like this if you want, you got all the right to!
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DTJB Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The only reason I don't visit your site is...well to be quite honest, I tend to forget it exists.  So doing the previews would benefit the both of us; I can continue to use dA because it's a site I visit pretty frequently and you can provide the links to your site as a reminder and generate more traffic.  Nothing wrong with making money off of your art.
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Shippuden23 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014

You need to make a living. It’s not like you’re the only artist that has done this.

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artsytarts Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I really don't mind the links, especially cause they help you get ad revenue. I mean, it's just two klicks more.
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VaguelyCreepy Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Art and spreading the joys thereof is a noble and worthwhile goal, but you can't eat a painting. (Technically you could, but you know what I mean. If I didn't account for that technicality, someone else would have.) And as cold as it sounds to say this, from a strictly monetary standpoint, it doesn't matter if you lose viewers by moving things to your site because they still wouldn't be getting you ad revenue even if you did keep it all here. Not your only concern, I know, but still.

 There's no shame in providing for yourself.
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Drasi Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Honestly, I support you either way. You need to be able to make a decent living. If that means I have to click a few links to get to your work, then I don't mind. If you would rather keep it here, then that's fine, too.
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lizardbug7 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Professional General Artist
I totally don't feel like it's spam. Also, you can't argue with that kind of traffic boost. I'd take it >_>……not sure I'd know what to do if I got it but I'd take it. Also it's not like your not at all going to post any art on here aside from those blurbs.
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Lapulta Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to say that I'd probably click to your website less if you link to it - unless you post half the comic here, then half the comic there. Then I'd probably go to your website, read the rest, laugh, hit the back button, and comment here....
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TAILS-FAN1 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
tbh, I understand you need money. The problem is that it IS annoying to have to click on that preview and click on a link to go to another site. I'll do it, I just prefer not to have to. :/ It's kinda a give and take. You know?
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Shaed-Knightwing Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay so there's this one comic I read that goes both on deviantart and their own website, they have a system that seems to work. It's like... their own website is a step ahead of their da page, so you can read a comic on da and it'll say 'go read the next comic now!' with a link to their website. You could wait until the next one is posted on da... buuuut you could also just click the link and go to the next one right now. It seems like a pretty good system, maybe you could do something like that?
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Scyoni Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
+1 to this idea. I follow a lot of people who do this and I always click-through. 
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Nerdio222 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist
eh, its kind of a lose-lose situation. just do youre best to make the best of it for everyone
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Rainbowdragon Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
It's spam  but a good kind of spam, like the kind you get in grocery stores....
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Verbal-Viagra Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
have you ever thought about just having a website that encapsulates everything you want to do? ^^ Seems like that would be an easy way to go about things :D kinda like CTRL-ALT-DEL, 2 guys and guy or gia or a number of other comics out there. I mean I read your stuff just as I read theirs, I just have links right to their websites. and if you have a comments section and email or notes section thats just about covering what you have here on DA. I don't  mean give up DA, you can still post art on DA just post more of it on your site. It makes sense to have more people driven to your site as it takes quite some time to draw a comic and your time is worth more than just praise. the revenue you derive from it may just allow you to dedicate more time to drawing more toons for us :P Anyway thats how I feel about it :D
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Pooky-di-Bear Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have actually quit watching at least one artist here on dA, because he started posting just previews or unfinished work on dA and instead provided a link to view his art on his Facebook page to generate pageviews.  I come to dA because I love art and want to see and share it here; if I wanted to view art on Facebook, I would have a profile there!

But at the same time, I understand that artists need to make money too.  I would suggest a compromise - post only your favorite or most relevant comics here, provide links to extras or related comics on your website.  The Cromartie High School anime did something like that.  If you purchased the original box set (the one that came with just the first disc), it came with the first book of the manga.  A few of the episodes on the first disc would occasionally refer to events in the manga by having a text box pop up when the characters were talking.  Something along the lines of "if you want to know more about this incident, read chapter X of the manga!"  That way, people can still discuss or view comics here, but can also go over to your site if they want to see more.
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Mercury-Dreams Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'm unemployed right now, so i know how a little money helps a lot. Also, it's not like i don't have the time for two extra clicks. :P 
I have a bunch of friends who enjoy your artwork - so I made sure to share the link of your website (rather than your dA) so you get a bit more dough for your artwork. :D Keep it up, King Preston. :)
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Lorrigan Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
I understand why you're doing this but honestly I have to tell you that for this means that I've seen the last of your comics. Thanks for the entertainment!
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marydemauro Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Just gonna comment on the watermark thing: I have no problem with watermarks when they are well done. Oh sure, splash a big ugly thing over the whole image... nobody likes that. But here are some great examples of watermarks: goldenwolf.deviantart.com/art/… , www.bayleecreations.deviantart… , whisperwings.deviantart.com/ar…    Honestly when a watermark is done well I don't even notice it.
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zentatsu Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Have you looked into something like www.patreon.com/ ? Maybe ad revenue, which is modest at best, is not the best way to monetize your work.
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Negai-Boshi Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly, I like your comics, and I'm clicking the links for now, but I have completely stopped reading webcomics in the past because I got tired of having to click through links. Your comics are clever, but I can live without them and probably will if I have to keep leaving dA to read them. Sorry.
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KhavenNitefall Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think, for the most part, the majority of us really don't mind following the link to another page to see your work, especially if it is HELPING you further your career. The way I see it, if you cannot generate enough $$$$$$ through art work (it happens!) you will have to go do something (bag groceries? No offense to anyone who does...it just seems less fun than art work) then you will have less time for your art work, and thus, we will see less of you on DA anyway....so this system works just fine.

DA is about finding and supporting artists, and I believe if that means we need to step a bit outside the DA realm to do so, we, as fans, should be willing. Either way! I don't care much about the link. I get to read the comics either way!
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Phoenix-FireMage Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally, I like to be able to find a copy of it on DA, because then I can favorite it. On the other hand, I like to browse through them on the other sites more than I like browsing through them on here.
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Passin Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Just give us notices and I will come
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BlazeDriver Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do what 2Gag does. Post a comic on your website. Wait about a week. Post the comic on DA, while posting a new comic on the website. Repeat.
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Doodled93 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Well, it would require a bit of a delay, but you could post comic A after you've finished comic B, that way there's still a comic to comment on but also if they want to see more they can go to your site. DA will be one comic behind you, but it'll mean that it'll feel a little bit less like you're strong arming people on DA to go to your site. 
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thinkpink9 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I think this system works fine. In fact it reminds me of another artist here on dA. I don't know if you know who Akreon is, but she and a partner (who's name is escaping me, currently) do the comic Off White. And when they post a new page of their comic, they offer a link to their website where the next page can be viewed. And I always click on it.

If you'd want to try a system like that, it would probably work to the same effect.
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smartsamiam Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
either way man, we'll always be behind you.
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Randicore Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
I don't mind it, it's just a Hyperlink to click, though I'm not as compelled to respond about the comic since I would need to go back to DA (Abit that's more laziness on my part and when I feel like commenting I probably will anyways.) Overall, I don't mind the link, if it helps jeep you afloat monetarily then I'm 100% for it.
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TigerAngelx67 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
I personally dislike having to click the link to view the comic but it's not enough of a dislike to make me stop reading. So do what you have to.
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Hotaru-No-Mayowasu Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I'm all for it. As long as we get notices letting us know you've posted something on your other site, I don't see the big deal. I'm more likely to check it out if your preview says "go here" than just searching for it on the web. I'm not that great with computers and searching, etc. So having you just post where I can easily click and see it makes my life easier. And I have no problem reading it on the other site to help you out more with views.
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Siseja-sama Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
do what you gotta do, man. It's your living you're making and you're supposed to be able to live off of it ;)
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CalumTraveler Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Way I see it, it's not spam. I'm happy to click through to the site! ^u^
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