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We had the Oscars recently and as usual it wasn't without problems. One of the controversies was Chris Rock's biting commentary about doing voice work for animated films, which was unfortunately insulting to the many hard working (yet perpetually  unknown) talents who produce about 90% of all voice work in the animated medium. Chris Rock's joke was funny for his circle of friends and the aging academy, but to younger artists and professionals it was very disrespectful. Voice actress Tara Strong took particular issue with Rock's comment and as we speak his twitter account is no doubt being flooded with angry hate messages and likely racism too... which is very unfortunate. www.examiner.com/african-ameri…

Other issues, such as glossing over Harry Potter and The War Horse completely and giving a Best Animated Film award to the likes of Rango, just continued to fuel my opinion that the MPA's way of doing things is old and outdated. Moviebob has done a whole series of videos about them over on the Escapist, along with a very comprehensive blog post about how "broken" the Oscars really is, and I strongly recommend you all take a look at his commentary.
www.escapistmagazine.com/video… www.escapistmagazine.com/video… www.escapistmagazine.com/artic…

But this, coupled with the recent Derpy fiasco tompreston.deviantart.com/jour… , has convinced me that the rest of the world really needs to make better effort to get up to the speed in which we generally process information.

Online we tend to trade and pass information so fast, that whole arguments and discussions can be started and resolved in a matter of minutes, with all the sources and facts to back up each side of the argument provided in links. Contrary to this, most big corporations and companies take a lot longer to react to events. Remember when the Ps3 blackout happened? Had Sony responded immediately instead of waiting for so long to reassure people that they were doing what they could to fix it, maybe people wouldn't have freaked out so much.

We live in "internet time" whereas the rest of the world operates in "normal time," and the discrepancy is just getting worse. Companies and institutions need to wake up to this trend and get with the program. Instant communication really is becoming instant, and it doesn't take very long anymore to permanently damage a corporation's goodwill now that everything can be fact checked, categorized, saved, reblogged, tweeted, and liked faster than an average person can type a sentence.

Take this whole Derpy issue for example. The incident started picking up steam Saturday the 25th. By Monday the 27th the general Brony community has had the sense to calm down and wait for a reasonable response. But here we are on the 28th and only JUST NOW is memebase starting to react to the events of this past weekend. And memebase is usually considered pretty close to "internet time" too. It's a good bet that Hasbro, a company that likely only works 9-5 mon-fri, probably hasn't even had time to process the full repercussions of the insanity we've worked up in a matter of days. And every day they DON'T respond to it, will just help fuel the fire and infuriate fans further.

As for the Oscars... well. They're just not in touch with how modern society operates anymore. The Oscars is a throwback to the "old man's club" of yore and it's pretty clearly evident by what gets nominated and what wins. Tron Legacy's soundtrack should have won Best Soundtrack last year, Harry Potter should've won something this year. And this isn't just a new offense either. The Academy completely ignored Lord of the Rings until the very last movie, and they outright scorned Stephen Spielberg for almost 20 years (mostly because he was "too young") before finally giving in and awarding him for Schindler's List.

I don't know where I was going with this... it's just something I've become more aware of lately. I'm using the Derpy issue and the Oscars as examples and I don't really want to discuss either here. I just feel that there is a strange disconnect between us, the general public, and them, the big corporations who's primary entertainment is what we thrive upon. I think this is a big reason why I've been getting more and more into internet shows, blogs, and videos and following lesser known personalities like Moviebob, Screwattack, AVGN, Yogscast, etc. The internet just produce the kinds of content I want to see and more frequently than I get from mainstream media.

How long do you think it will be before Television itself becomes completely irrelevant?
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DTJB Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Another good example of why the Oscars don't matter. The Big Lebowski: cult classic, great characters, hilarious beyond measure and is practically loved by everyone who watches it. When it first came out, it wasn't even nominated. Probably because it was a comedy or the whole concept just wasn't mainstream enough.

Yet another example. Watched some show reviewing the Grammys, or maybe it was awards in general, I think MTV produced it...anyway, narration talks about whether or not the Grammys REALLY celebrate the best artists ever and if the awards really mean anything. Cut to a clip of Little Richard as a presenter for Best New Artist, and he announces himself as the winner, exclaiming he's been in the business for so long and still hasn't won a Grammy.

One more classic Grammy example. Grammys decided to introduce a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal award in 1988. Metallica was the favorite to win with their ...And Justice For All album. Jethro Tull was nominated for Crest of a Knave, even though the band clearly isn't metal. Jethro Tull was so certain they weren't going to win, they didn't bother showing up to the ceremony. Guess who actually won the Grammy? Yep. As a jab to the whole fiasco, Metallica released new copies of ...And Justice For All with a sticker reading "Grammy Award LOSERS".

Sometimes award shows are irrelevant in honoring greatness and you have to find great art in other mediums. And sometimes, the nominated and unmentioned stuff is even better.
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ImmaComicGenius Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
TV will always be relevant to me.
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Inuranchan Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I realize this is an old journal (I'm mostly going through your journal to find out if you deleted your "Welcome to the Internet" drawing) but I'm very curious...I thought Rango was brilliant and much better than the rest of the nominees, who did you want to win? Tin Tin? I haven't seen it yet honestly, but I bet it was better than Puss in Boots...it probably deserved to be up there at the least.

Also, chris rock...I found it both funny and insulting....but lets not get into that...
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Are you kidding me? His joke was HARMLESS.
People always overreact!
My god, can we really not share a good joke once in a while?

Hilarious joke. People offended are idiots. End of discussion.
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Constatinoplean Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student General Artist
The TV and movies' industries are on their last legs and they are not adapting to the new generation of entertainment, we all know that. It's only a matter of maybe 5-10 years (if even!) before they're dead. :shrug:

But instead of discussing the relevance (or lack thereof) of TV, the more important thing is to protect the liberties of the internet (not trying to sound like a broken record here! :lmao: ) But SOPAIreland just got ministerial bypass and now the parliament here is also considering charging a yearly internet licence for those who watch TV online. Traditionally, we have the British model of paying an annual TV licence (except that unlike the UK, we get 4 REALLY shitty channels which are watered-down copies of the BBC and ITV). Now that we have to change to digital boxes as analog is being faced out in Europe, no-one is renewing their licences and that's why the new charge is being dicussed.
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Awesomedudeperson Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
What's television?
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konekoangel Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
*Thumbs up* True, true.
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coolcat9728 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012
I occasionally watch History channel or some movie channel on directv but other than that I'll watch gaming stuff on the internet, it's easier to get to and theirs more selection.
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vbcnxm Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012
disregard television, acquire Skyrim
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lavie-chan-lady Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012   Traditional Artist
I actually agree with you on this stuff. I think it's why I find the People's Choice awards more credible than the oscars.
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carpenoctem410 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Student General Artist
To be frank, I was quite happy with most of the Oscar winners, although I also strongly missed some nominations like Andy Serkis, for example. And to say that Tintin isn't an animation film because the acting is mostly done by motion capturing is just wrong. Still, Rango was my most favorite movie of last year and I'm glad it won! Don't know why puss in boots was among the nominations here, though ...
Yes, they have to wake up.

And Chris Rock's speech ... I just thought it was a funny joke because it was concerning his own way of dubbing and ONLY his own way. I know how hard the voices work, I know how much they work for such an underrated profession. Still, I thought Chris' comment was funny.
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Kasdren Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Look at book stores... They seem to be closing all around where I am... No one is reading paper based text anymore...

:icondoaninternetplz: :icondoabookplz:

See... :)
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PrincessWhisper Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
I very rarely watch tv either. I use NetFlix to watch old shows, and that's it. Boomerang still has some good shows, though. I watched Dexter's Laboratory last night, and they still show Rocky and Bullwinkle!

TV is just full of stupid stuff nobody really wants to see anymore. Reality shows? Bleh.
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EASMO Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
Wholeheartly agree with all you said. Internet time needs to be adopted by the companies.

However, while TV is also obsolete for me in that Im also a bigger fan of internet shows, the fact that the companies are trying to control the internet to make it a second TV where you watch what they want, is a big worry. For all this past time, internet was a thing about some nerds, which made them not care and made it the truly free space which cannot be found in real life. Upon it becoming more and more "mainstream" it has started to pick the interest of the big companies and not in a good way.
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themaskgallery Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
I don't have cable or any way to watch TV, only a whole lot of dvds I've collected over the years, (mostly animated movies)

to learn about the weather: I look out side
the news: I'll hear about it eventually if its important (like the tsunami)
celebrity gossip: I don't care
reality/ game shows: they're all the same now
shows: wimp.com and dump.com
cartoons: adventure time and mlp:fim

yep, got all my bases covered.
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Incertus984 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
Television is becoming more irrelevant through cable providers, and more relevant through the internet. Personally, I haven't watched an actual tv in months.
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Lemurrific Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
The only things I watch on our TV is actually from NETFLIX, so no.
TV is not relevant to me at all. Everything I watch I find through some means on the internet.

I think the idea that the media is lagging behind can be applied to a lot more than just that.
A good portion of "big" America is depressingly behind it's people.
I hardly see anyone in power who actually knows what the people want.
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SonicWolvelina99 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, it all depends on what Satelite or what cable you have. For example for DSTV, it has a SHIT tonnes of channels to look through so if you have it, then you are either rich or just plain lucky.
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jasonvigo171 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
There are very few shows on TV I watch and even then, those shows I do not go out of my way to watch. I have not really watched TV in a good 2 years. Most shows I want to watch are available on the web in some form. I can pick these shows when I want to watch them rather than having to wait for them to come on or wait to record them. I do not see TV as dead just out dated. I get far more enjoyment out of internet for far less money.

It is like buying an FM radio for 100 when you can get XM for 50, sure, you might not get all the same stuff, but the XM is still cheaper and has alot more choices so you are bound to find at least one thing you like.
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MrSchinken Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As soon as the providers will stop offering good films or shows on free-tv the majority will switch to the internet.
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Hergman Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
it was once said that radio would have disappeared completely when the television was invented.
yet radio is still around.
on life support maybe but still around
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Chargrin Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol my husband and I turned off our cable a long time ago. We only have a tv so we have something to hook up the xbox to, even then most of the time the xbox is only used for netflix and occasional gaming. Most of the time our living room is empty.
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EleganceLiberty Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I remember hearing on a morning radio show on my way to work, that the Academy -the people who vote on a lot of these movies- is about 65% made up of white men in their 50's and older.

Frankly, it's long over due for a complete overhaul and injection of fresh blood.
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bluewolfcaptain Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
Television will only become irrelevant when it can no longer adapt. In my opinion any way. We still listen to the radio and read newspapers don't we?

Can't say much about the rest. Haven't seen the Academy Awards in years and I'm a few episodes behind with MLP.
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Jag1983 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Student Artist
Hmm T.V is becoming stale with every Chanel copying each other and culling every new show after its first season and axing the very good old shows and not even having repeats of the good old shows. YouTube is becoming our new T.V as such.
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ryufury Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
:facepalm:

This is kinda sad... Normally your journals are somewhat well thought out, but over the last week or so they have become angry, ignorant, and this one is even childish. You seem to be throwing a temper tantrum that the movies you liked didn't win at the Oscars while ones you didn't like did. On top of that you are refusing to discuss it, which all comes of as rather childish.

I don't know what it is bothering you, but something is stressing you out and having a very adverse affect on your personality lately. Take a break, have a drink, meditate, listen to soothing music, whatever, do something to relax.... it's sad seeing you in this downward spiral.
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Tharalin Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
I Don't watch any TV show except every few weeks a movie I find interesting. Mostly, becaus 95% of the stuff running is just braindead. Series which are flat, boring and overreact over everything. It feels like there are a douzen castingshows at the same time not to mention the lowbrow afternoontelevision.
There just isn't anything interesting in the TV anymore. The only series I watch now an then are zooseries...
Ironically, I recently read that in my country the time people spend for their TVs increased....
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BlackRaven73 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Oscars where never my thing. They are indeed a bit outdated and behind.
Well to the TV part. For me just TV is completly irrelevant. I don't posses one and I'm happy about it. What I want to watch I watch online most of the time even legal. So maybe it isn't that long till it's just something to kill time with 'cuz that's what it would be for me and that does not count as relevant imo.
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RemLezar Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You make some good points about the Oscars being an old white man's club and out of touch. But I don't agree Spielberg has been any way scorned by the academy at all. He won best director way before Scorcesse did, and many famous director haven't got nearly as many nominations as he had in his career. But the Academy Awards is an outdated organization which is best viewed as a source of free publicity for smaller movies that wouldn't normally get the recognition.
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FuzzySlipper Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I've never really had an interest in the Oscars. I tend to like some movies that other people hate, and hate some movies that the critics laud as spectacular. I generally only look to reviews for info about stuff I like to stay away from, because while a reviewer might think the movie stank I am generally a lot more forgiving plot-wise. Which might be bad sometimes, since I want to be an author . . .
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TAILS-FAN1 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
I thought it was awesome that the song "Man or Muppet" won best original song, but I was absolutely FURIOUS that HUGO of all things beat Harry Potter- THE LAST HARRY POTTER!!! You should've seen me last year when I heard "The Karate Kid" beat Harry Potter in the Kids' Choice Awards. lol
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Rathdrgnknight Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
There are very few shows I keep up with (MLP:FiM, Face-Off, and maybe the occasional family guy episode) so I find TV pointless. My roommate has the tv on non-stop because she dislikes everyone at our school, so I don't even get to hang in my room that often. I wish she hadn't gotten a tv, and next roommate I have, TV is banned after 11pm (I have early classes)
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StainedVenom Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student General Artist
TV is only relevant when it comes to re-runs of good shows from the 90's or before, like Frasier, Friends, Dragnet, etc. TV now sucks because all it is is stupid reality TV

...though I do like Chopped. I will admit that much about current TV
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Teasealot Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Haven't watched TV (online or with an actual TV) for nearly three years.
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TriforceoftheGods Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Hasbro responded today: [link]

They're reasoning doesn't sit well with me. They wanted to keep up the image of acceptance and inclusion with diverse characters...by censoring a diverse character?

I don't even care about the voice change, it makes more sense anyway. I'm just really sad/mad that she no longer get's acknowledged by name.
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Dublin07 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Television will still be relevant, as will most other "ancient" forms of communication. In developing countries around the world, things like television and even the telephone are still brand new concepts to people. Television may stop being relevant to us, but in places like Africa, parts of South America, and large chunks of Asia, these types of appliances are just beginning to gain momentum, so television isn't done yet. And many things on the internet are reactionary to television, most things on the internet, at least from what I've seen, don't have much in the way of new material, which again may be wrong. So until things on the internet become more mainstream and receive the same kind of funding that a television show can acquire, Internet shows will perpetually lag behind television shows just due to lack of people knowing about them.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. This is just based off of what I know.
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hamsterlampshade Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
I will admit that I am a large fan of Mr.Depp, but Rango was an excellent movie in my opinion. It had charm, a good story, great characters, and excellent voice acting done by all parties involved. Even some of the minor roles amongst the townspeople seemed like a lot of detail went into them and I thought it was awesome!
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SparklyStarStudios Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Big animation studios realize they could rake in big bucks using celebrity voice talent as opposed to actual trained actors... For a well-known celebrity it's very easy for them to get paid millions just to perform voice work as opposed to someone who actually trained for it and NEEDS the job.

Oh well. Hollywood. Hmph.
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bunniegrrl Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Two things.. YES, Harry Potter should have won SOMEthing - but haters gonna hate in the comments and old farts don't know good movies when they see them. At least it's STILL BETTER THAN TWICRAP. And I actually LIKED Rango, and not just for Johnny Depp. It was a cute, funny, and well made movie for the family.. but again, haters gonna hate. As for me, I watch tv every day, for hours.. so no, it isn't irrelevant to me. I still have stacks and stacks of dvds that I watch weekly (mostly on Saturday and Sunday, when there's nothing on tv), and I'd like to add to those stacks at some point.

Don't like what I had to say, commenters? Oh. Effin. Well. I don't live to please you.
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NPSF3000 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
You had me until you tried to convince us Harry Potter deserved something.

Poor little fanboi.
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Larkspur-KiwiPickle Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There are actually people out there trying to cut back on producers and support small-time independent groups, so if somebody wants a movie filmed they get in touch with a group of people and have an independent movie filmed, or if somebody wants a type of comic book written they get in touch with an artist and commission it, pretty much, because there are so many things done through the internet and we shouldn't be spending our money supporting these big corporations (like seriously, how many 'A _____ film' things do we need to see before we watch a movie?).

I don't know much about it, I don't even have links, but I thought it was interesting and relevant to this journal.
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Katy12ML Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with everything.
And "Harry Potter should've won something this year." AMEN.
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Quill-of-Wonder Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It really should have won best makeup, rather than Iron Lady...
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Katy12ML Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly.
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JonCrescent Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
I was mostly interested in the Best Animated category.I personally hoped on Kung Fu Panda 2 because of it's story, excellent character depth and great animation(I think Puss was better animated than Panda, but I digress since both were pretty good). But it's whatever. Rango was alright but looking back on it it was a western pirates of the Caribbean movie. Same lead actor, director and even the soundtrack was reminiscent of the franchise. I guess when it comes to animated films, people want more of the same.
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Jnthnbrwnly Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I just use television for a few programs like the walking dead, mostly I just use it for background noise. I'm so wasteful of electricity orz.
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Lyco15 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I honestly don't know why people still watch award shows like these anymore. They're only their to spice up celebrity gossip, and that's it.
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syanta Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
For me, television already has become irrelevant. Everything I want I'll get from the internet. News? All kinds of internet sites. Entertainment? I'll stream or download it. Bored zapping? Give me 9gag. Background noise? I'll put on something from iTunes.

Most companies won't be able to respond to internet time since they only work about 8 hours a day and have weekends. The internet is 24/7. By the time they come back from their weekend the damage has already been done.
And you can't always predict if/when the shitstorm will hit.
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calvin-py Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student General Artist
I watch TV only for sports nowadays, and I'm not very big into sports (but I still watch often enough). I think though that TV will still stay relevant much the same way radio has - simply because it's widely available.
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Pooky-di-Bear Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I still watch TV, but I rarely watch any show regularly. I mostly watch Food Network shows, and the occasional Colbert Report or Law & Order: SVU or one of the other few shows I like if I happen to catch an episode. If I still had G4 I'd probably watch Ninja Warrior all day, but stupid Comcast took it away from my service.

I prefer TV because, as a graphic designer, most of my day is spent in front of the computer already, and I have no desire to spend even more time in front of the computer. I like lounging around on a sofa, watching a big screen TV, rather than sitting hunched on my desk chair, staring at a monitor inches away from my face. This is also why I switched from PC games to consoles.
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