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King Richard III
Dunno how many of you have heard this, but apparently the remains of King Richard the 3rd have been found and dug up in a car park in England. The DNA testing confirms that it was the notorious "evil" King who was killed during a battle and his corpse and remains put up on display and buried unceremoniously without a coffin near a church.
If you'd like to know more you can see an article about it here: www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/world/e…

PS4?
Sony is teasing something big to be announced at the end of February and everyone is naturally speculating that it's probably the announcement of the PS4. If this is true, it'll definitely be a shock to me since Sony never announces new consoles or hardware before E3. Only Nintendo seems to relish in announcing things with a blatant disregard of conventionality, so it would be very unique of Sony to do the same and announce a new console WELL before E3. Of course this is all still just rumors and speculation, so for the moment I'm gonna play devils advocate and say they won't have a new console announced until E3 at the earliest. Prove me wrong Sony!

Alicorn
Bronies are really freaking out over the prospect of Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn for the season finally. All I gotta say is... can we please stop freaking out over this? Please? Getting wings and a slightly modified mane is not enough of a reason to throw a tantrum. Just trust the writers of the show... please?

Geek Girls PSA
Recently a video from a nerd group mocking the TV show Portlandia made a PSA about nerd girls and how they shouldn't call themselves nerds because nerd is a negative word describing socially awkward medically inhibited individuals, not someone who just saw "The Avengers" for the second time. www.indiewire.com/article/tele…

What's really pissing me off is both the double standard and the pervasive misogyny that geek culture seems to be struggling with right now. What's worse is that most of the arguments against nerd girls boils down to: "If you're attractive, you can't be a geek," or "just because you like a nerd show doesn't make you a nerd."

I really don't give a shit if "attractive" women dress up as "attractive" video game/comic book characters and attend conventions. There is NOTHING WRONG with that, and men who continue to try and find excuses to not allow these people into their domain are practicing exclusionary tactics, sexism, and being elitist dickwads. You do not have to "quiz" women to "prove" they are just as geeky as you are, and doing so makes you look like an asshole. And frankly I am getting really tired of all the hate against gamer girls and this ongoing "war" nerd culture is struggling to get through.

I just want it to end. Let people enjoy whatever they want and stop trying to dictate terms and conditions you have NO RIGHT to demand.
  • Listening to: Sidescrollers
  • Watching: King of the Hill
  • Playing: Harvest Moon 3D: A New Beginning
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Starlit-Sorceress Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
A big YES to your geek girl comments!! Someone who saw Avengers twice may not be as nerdy as someone who's read every single Avengers comic book, but everyone should be welcome to identify as a nerd if they feel the calling.

Nerds routinely get made fun of for liking things "too much." Who are we then to make fun of people for not liking things "enough"??
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LateNightTelevision Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Eh, I think the Alicorn thing is a bad decision, one made too soon, at least.
-and obviously motivated by the marketing team rather than the creators of the show.
It's ultimately bad, but not quite as bad as people are making it out to be. Not bad enough to warrent this level freakout, at least.
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LateNightTelevision Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
I figured I should update and say I don't actually mind Twilicorn anymore. I still think it's very much a "too soon" situation, but eh, nothings perfect, I'm sure the writing team will do a pretty good job with it.
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DTJB Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Naw, PS4 sounds like a generic name; too predictable. Needs something that sounds snazzy.

Hate against geek girls? The hell? Are we still in high school or what?
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HectorAdame Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If an attractive girl likes the same "nerd" shows as me, then I'm not gonna give a fuck if girls can't be allowed to be nerds, talk with her, be friends with her, probably go to a steady relationship with her and so on till we die together.

Seriously, nerd guys, if you're struggling to get an attractive woman, then a nerd attractive woman is a dream come true!! Someone beautiful who likes the same shows or the same games as you!! Don't you like that idea?
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Robo-pie Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
but, 'nerd' IS supposed to be a derogatory word for a social failure. 'geek' is the word people are TRYING to use, but there are a few people conflating the two and most don't correct them
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dempsey23 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
Attractive girls are at the gate! To arms, men! TO ARMS! lol
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AceJunior28 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
I think the rage towards girl geeks comes from how most girls mocked the nerds for a long time. So to see the sudden transition to the nerd-culture, most guys will think the girls are faking it. I'm not sure where I stand on this topic, since I know "real geek girls" that have questioned of the girls on their nerdiness. I dunno, just putting it out there.
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Popgal120 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
you have no idea how much i agree with you on the whole geek girls thing
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Iylish Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I love the bit about nerd/geek girls. I wish more people thought like you!
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SasheraDesigns Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Student Digital Artist
personally I wouldve thought most "geeky" men would be all over girls who enjoy comic books or video games, seeing as most women wont tolerate guys who spend the majority of there day on the xBox etc etc

Then again that could be a highly stereotypical approach to the subject...
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Kendaiblue Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
Has anyone else been hitting piles of complaints about "fake geek girl" complaints, while seeing none of the original complaints themselves? Everything I've run into about it has been some kind of rant about backwards male sexism and such.

I kind of suspect this is a social practice of shaming those lower in the pecking order. Let's start with the gender issue, which I see as the main amplifier here. The feminist movement has made a lot of progress since the days of female suffrage, and I am among those who think a more than a little vengeance has been part of the process, with males being made more of an acceptable target, and the opposite happening for women. Anything involving exclusion of women is a social taboo.

Then there's the undiscussed roots of the entire geek, nerd, dweeb etc. classes. The social divide between introversion and extroversion. It has less to do with the interests than it does the personality that draws people to those interests. What it comes down to is the strong overlap of nerd culture with introversion. When it comes to the "fake geek girl" label The core of it is so many of those nerds are introverts, and use those interest groups to find an introvert-friendly environment. Extroverts are naturally more aggressive, so it only takes a small ratio of them to change the atmosphere to one that suits them instead.

With the current social hierarchy situation, we may be just looking at a scenario where the majority of the group has been pulled into a polite silence, while the crazy extremists are the only ones who dare to speak up.
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Cristal-Michel Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Gamer lvl3, Geek lvl2 and Nerd lvl1 girl... and proud to be.
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MummyMetaller Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
The topic of 'gamer/geek'.
I am a person who has enjoyed video games; movies and shows centered around comic characters as well as comics themselves since I was young enough to remember doing these things. (I miss my old Atari ST. I want to play skull duggery and Barbarian again! My mum would even sit playing space invaders till the early hours of the morning whilst she was pregnant).
A persons gender has absolutely NOTHING to do with their interests! I was collecting figurines from the aliens movies when I was small because I thought they looked great; then I watched the movies and realised just how awesome they really were; and I still have some of them (I've sadly lost my old Aliens comics though). I loved Dinosaurs too, and dragons as well as monsters in general and grew up being an avid horror movie fan and having a great interest in mythology.

I was laughed in the face by one of my 'friends' when I was a teenager because I told her that I played video games; god forbid if I should ever admit that I read comics as well as drew my own; that was like my 'huge dark secret' as I was growing up.

If I were to be 'quizzed' by some prick who thinks he's high and mighty purely because he has a dick and thus believes he somehow instantly has a more superior 'knowledge' on characters/villains/powers/events from Marvel/DC/computer games etc; then I would be forced to laugh in his face at the sheer idiocy of his behaviour. I'm not saying I have a superior knowledge; I only know so much; but to be challenged in such a way would be laughable, as well as generally pitiful. It's an interest; not an obsession.

I still don't understand this mentality, it is absolutely pathetic (and yes that also includes those girls who DO seem to think they're somehow fantastic because they have a vagina a know one or two things about some fandom that is currently popular; or because they play a game or two).

I'm currently making sure I check out Marvel and DC graphic novels from the library so my two kids can read them; as well as have the occasional gaming session with them (we play with their younger cousin and aunty online who we don't get to see much). In all honesty I think I'm probably a bit more enthusiastic with cartoons; comics and gaming then they are :XD:
Pretty sure soon I'll be saying things like "You will sit down and watch the Marvel and DC movies and cartoons and play with these action figures and like it!"

Although they really got into the chat we had over 'who would win in a fight'... My eldest is convinced Captain America could beat the Hulk, tried to explain why I doubted it lol.
Got them watching all the old movies/cartoons/shows that I grew up with too, like the original Spiderman cartoon (and lets be honest; it's pretty bad lol), they love the cheesy Adam West batman show; which makes me cringe a lot, Teenage mutant ninja turtles; and they absolutely adore the British claymation 'Trap Door' [link] (even got them and my nephew plushies of those guys for christmas; definitely a fave methinks) etc etc

Anyway; I could ramble on and on about it more... But yeah... The mentality is bullshit and incredibly childish.

Also; I don't really like the term 'girl gamer', pretty sure guys wouldn't want to be called 'boy gamers' :roll:
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Paladin343 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I'd heard about that a while back (Richard III, that is), but I don't think the results were in. That is so cool. This is why forensic anthropology rocks.

As for geek/nerd people... I'm not entirely fond of labels, but "geek/nerd" is one of the ones I'll own with pride. And frankly, it's a lot easier for female geeks who are comfortable in their bodies to represent woman characters for cosplay. Cosplay takes a lot of time, money and effort, why throw in physical discomfort on top of that? And hey, if they're comfortable enough to be ogled, or innocent enough not to notice, then they should be applauded, not excluded. It's hard enough for most to find that kind of confidence, and jealousy, or outdated definitions and connotations, oughtn't play into that.
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imperfect-ion Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Being a gamer girl, I had to give up on free online gaming especially due to those kinds of things, plus sexual harassments and those who are called "kevin". Whenever I play now I use male icons/characters(that I somewhat dislike) so people just leave me alone and I can go rush for XP myself without anyone trying to help me or give me gamemoney all the time just cause I'm a girl.
Am i the only one doing this? xD
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iamcivilservice Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
Sorry to hear that you have had to deal with that sort of garbage. I definitely think it depends on the game and the respective community. For example, I play Guild Wars 2 and often use a female character (though I am a guy) and use a generic or sometimes feminine tag and haven't been harassed or coddled thus far. This is not to say that harassment doesn't exist in online gaming overall (it most certainly does) just that certain communities are much more fun and stress-free than others.
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imperfect-ion Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course, GW2 is not a free-to-play, or wasn't when i heard about it if i remember well, that's probably why there's less cases like this. It's not something I like to tag negative stuff to, but free-to-play games seem to be more subject to those kinda stuff since you don't pay for playing. I guess the only free MMOs I haven't seen it is AION(now F2P),FLYForFun and MapleStory because nobody ever talked. Or I am a very unlucky gamer girl! thank you for sharing your thoughts. :D
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16bitmick Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
I feel that this hate for "fake nerd girls" and "fake gamer girls" or what have you is a reaction to finding out that it isn't "not having something in common" that makes the girls not like them, it is their personality. Their personality sucks. To combat having to accept that, they have to de-legitimize the commonality in an attempt to make it the issue again.
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Darth-Sparrowhawk Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah yes, heard about the Richard III thing. All of a sudden everyone wants books about him. (I work at a library.)

And nerd girls. Yeah. I watch quite a few "let's play" series on youtube and ones about mods, coz I find most my games and mods that way. They're all run by guys, but surprisingly enough they are pretty inclusive when it comes to the fact that some of their viewers are girls. It warms my heart. :heart: (because I am a girl. :XD:)
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RoseWolfOfLight Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
On the nerd girls topic I found out something very interesting the other day. Whenever video game violence is brought up fans point to how people use to thing the pulp fiction magazines with their graphic content would lead people to act more violently and that it all turned out to be BS so people should learn from history and not make the same mistake.
Well for my Science Fiction Literature class we were reading a story published by a female writer in one of the pulp magazines and a scholarly article analyzing it. Well it turns out back during that time period many male readers questioned female readers of science fiction. The article specifically says, "the presence or absence of female characters also tended to slip over into the question of whether women were or should be readers of SF [Science Fiction]."
I found this so funny, the video game community really should take their own advice and learn from history.

PS. As a nerd girl I find it so annoying when guys come up to me at cons and feel the need to "quiz" me on my interest. They try to be discrete but why the hell else would someone start asking me about "Logopolis" when I buy a picture of the 10th Doctor, and not in the "hey have you seen it" kinda way. The worst is when I don't know enough about even one subject they deem me a poser. Its infuriating! My husband has never been confronted like that and I know more then he does about all but one of our mutual fandoms it's crazy stupid.
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strange12girl Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
On the topic of geek girls, I would definitely say I am one. I've been playing and enjoying video games for as long as I can remember. I've played several MMOs even, and any time I play an mmo and I mention that I am in fact the same gender as (most) of the people I play... well, people start questioning and doubting me.
Clearly in their minds it's impossible for a girl to actually enjoy running around killing beasts for xp. I've had people even ask me 'are you sure?' when I told them I'm a girl. Honestly! I think I'd know my own gender by now!
I'd also say that it's pretty common for guys to say some pretty sexist things in games where they don't think girls are going to hear them. I ignore it, but I suppose I shouldn't ignore it so much. Though any of the times I commented on it, it only made them act worse (getting attention for bad behavior).
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starrasberry89 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
There's a difference between geeks/gamers who happen to be girls, and girl geeks, I think.
The first play the games for the enjoyment of it or watch superhero films cos they like them (etc etc for everything else geek related).
Girl geeks are the kind who wear those ray ban style glasses even though they don't need them, just cos they're geek chic atm. They post photos of the controller to fb as if that's proof they're hard core gamers. They were superhero logo tees because they're in fashion too, although they're probably a bit sketchy on what exactly is that magic ring thingy the Green Lantern has.
I like to watch my bf play games because I like the stories and graphics, and I'm often on zombie look-out for him lol but I can't play anything more sophisicated than Super Mario myself, and I love comic book hero films but I wouldn't call myself a geek because I don't think I'm committed enough to be a proper one and I never want to be counted as a girl geek.
Geek doesn't have a gender.
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QuiteSimplyMe Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
What you are describing are casual fans of geek culture. Casual fans exist in all genders, but only girls get shit for it.
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starrasberry89 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
True, but other genders don't do the same stuff, like I've not once seen a fb pic of guy with no top holding a controller while posing in the bathroom mirror, so maybe the other genders are just less annoying about it, or less attention-grabbing.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
You have to admit though, there are still a few girls that only do it for the attention. Those are the ones that annoy me, not the attractive ones. I know one. She's the sweetest thing ever and wow is she a geek! I would not be surprised if she's turned down SEVERAL guys hitting on her because of her love for comic books and stuff.

I don't know, maybe I don't know the other half of the spectrum. It's fine if you like something; I just don't think girls should be wearing Mario backpacks just because "Mario's popular = I'm popular yay!"
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frenchraph Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
But then, what about the guys who do that too? I mean the "Mario's popular = I'm popular yay!" is not specific to the female gender by far, but I never hear anyone call any of them "fake geek guys" where, base on what you describle, they are!
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student Photographer
It might be because they're more rare; of course they apply to both genders, but I haven't encountered a guy one yet, so I honestly have no idea what to look for on those. I go to a very heavily geek-populated college, so everyone that wears a certain shirt is more than likely a die-hard fan and you don't feel weird approaching the guys with said certain shirt. By no means is it just limited to girls, I just haven't seen one yet.
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Baconmoose Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
For the record I agree. I find girls who artificially re-brand themselves as gamer-nerds for attention to be annoying. I'm not suggesting we strip them of their rights and stone them in the street or something, I'm saying they're annoying. They're attention whores. Attention whores are annoying and there should be less of them. And don't nobody accuse me of being sexist, men do it too. Anybody of any gender can be an attention whore, and it's still annoying.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
No no, you're right. I even hate my own sex because of people like them--and then the other 90% that do nothing but get knocked up and drink all day. But there's nothing I can do but silently judge them in my head.
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Baconmoose Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I will say that while I don't hate women, I do hate bimbos, and a disappointing number of women are in fact bimbos. Kudos to you for not being one.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
The very, very, very tiny percentage... *faith in humanity lost*
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Shaylans Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Being sexist isn't cute, please stop being such a special snowflake.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Photographer
I'm not sexist, I hate everyone. Most of them just happen to be women.
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Shaylans Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
The idea that a majority of women are bimbos is pretty sexist. [link] I would watch this.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"there are still a few girls that only do it for the attention."

I don't care, and you shouldn't either.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
Why not? You can't talk to them, they won't have any idea what you're talking about. Then you lose the opportunity to make a great friend because they're definitely not going to have anything else in common after that awkward silence from them saying they don't know anything about the fandom. That person then goes around and makes other people think the exact same thing, and then you're less willing to meet new people because you don't know if it's a dumb prep or someone that likes the fandom even a TINY bit. Surely you can see why this can be at least a little bit bothersome.
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supahchristine Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
This annoys me a little, to be completely honest. Fine, someone is new to something, and don't know as much as someone who has spent x-amount of years as you or someone else. Why is that a negative thing? That is your que to introduce them to more things, and make a new friend that way instead.

It's just as bad that other girls "quiz them and doubt their legitimacy" as it is that a boy does the same. I think we should all try to care a little less what other people do, whether they do it for attention or enjoyment.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
No no no no, the person that IS interested in something, new or not, is not the problem/annoyance to me. It's the ones that wear a TMNT shirt and don't know ANYTHING about it and have no interest in it other than to show it off and be popular by being a geek. They're the ones that DON'T want to know about it. How can you trust anyone if some of them have no idea what you're talking about and then brush you off? THAT'S what annoys me. The people that really don't want to learn about whatever they're boasting.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"It's the ones that wear a TMNT shirt and don't know ANYTHING about it and have no interest in it other than to show it off and be popular by being a geek."

Again... why is this a problem? What are they taking away? What are they ruining for you outside a possible conversation that may or may not happen?
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
Because they give everyone else the impression that they like the fandom and then it makes everyone aggravated. Again, I'm not saying it's being discriminatory, it's just very very annoying.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And again, I agree it can be annoying... but overall they're not really doing anything "wrong" and what they are doing doesn't really affect anything so... why bother complaining about an issue that doesn't ultimately matter? So they aren't as "nerdy" as others. So they're just doing it cuz it's "cool." So what? Let them think they're cool, and just ignore them. They aren't harming anything by being "stylish" or "trendy."
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bothersome? Yes. A problem that needs to be discriminated against because it annoys you? No.
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Hinata-teh-Lefty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Photographer
Maybe my first reply did sound a little discriminatory, and I didn't intend for it to be so. My apologies for not wording it correctly the first time. I am just glad you see it's annoying too.
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panty-pirate Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wouldn't say we're freaking out about it so much as it's so surprising. Maybe it's a tad bit expected as there have been many jokes about Twilight becoming an alicorn in the brony community, but still surprising none the less. This could change the entire show and the dynamic of the mane six.
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binks95 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
XD that rant about nerd girls made my day. I agree about the quizzing thing, but it does bug me when girls pretend to play games and watch programs that boys are interested in just to get their attention. If you ask me, it's starting to become another society stereotype with women that, not only do they have to be thin and caked in make-up, but they also HAVE to play games and dress up as Princess Leia to appease the male society.
BE WHO YOU ARE GIRLS!!
As for King Richard... that was the best thing that has happened so far this year. As a brit, I found it particularly awesome XD
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Shadoan Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
King Richard III-
No comment.

PS4-
The PS4 or PS Orbis as its code named by a crapload of gamers, XD will be announced Feb. 20th. It may be a first look at the console, controller and specs. Ref. link: [link]

Alicorn-
No comment.

Nerd Girls PSA-
I agree with you. If anything, there are just a couple of asses looking for attention. I say just ignore them, as long as noone buys into this crap. I may just submit some art on this. XD
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Sugar--Cube Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
No one reads the Terms and Conditions anyway.
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yaoi-fangirl-kickass Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
I'm sort of disappointed the picture isn't available in my country.... I don't know, this whole idea of 'geek girl' bothers me. I enjoy comic books and anime, video games, cartoons and all that fun stuff. And if I do say so myself I'm pretty attractive. It gets on my nerves when people treat me different just because I'm a girl.
I now refuse to go to my local game shop because they kept acting like me being a girl was some sort of hindrance, to my understanding of video games. I asked if they only had a game for the 360, and he just said, sorry we don't have that for the Wii. I have to say I was a little shocked. Then when I asked about Halo (which I've never played but was interested in giving a chance) he suggest I try something a little less violent.
I feel like as a girl I'm isolated from a lot of the things I love.
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SonicWolvelina99 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Regardless of gender or how much you are into something, you're still someone who likes said something.
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