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Debate Thank You's
Over the past couple of days I've posted either illustrations about controversial issues or made journal posts with potentially polarizing topics. But wonderfully, the vast majority of the responses to those have been overwhelmingly intellectual and well thought out discussions. I just wanted to thank everyone who participated in those discussions because I know how easily it all could've devolved into opinionated attacks, arguments, and "drama." It really makes me happy to see that I can put out a topic and people can discuss said topic without being a jerk about it. That's truly fantastic and I am very happy users proceeded with calm and collected responses. It's been a treat to read through them all.

Booklet Printing Help?
As I said before, during my time away from the internet I've been working on a bunch of illustrations that I am hoping to have printed into small booklets for conventions. The point of these booklets is to keep the costs down (making it affordable both to print and to sell), but I am running into quite a number of stumbling blocks.

The booklets are only 12 pages long (not including the front and back cover) and are full color. But many of the printing websites I've tried have really restrictive rules, such as a minimum order limit of 250 copies, or the minimum number of pages being 24. The booklets are relatively small: 5.5 x 8.5 inches, and I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to just print and staple them myself...

Please, if you have any printing suggestions, solutions, or recommendations I'd be very open to hearing them.
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Less-Than-Obvious Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Could you go to a store like Staples (That's in the US right?) and see how much they would charge for printing? It might be a lot more because I don't know internet prices but it's worth a look right.
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schuball Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
You are still the worst, just so you know Dobson
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Scyoni Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You might consider making a few more works.

I'm not the most experienced with conventions, but 12 seems a little short... It might be better worth it for you and your fans if you just waited until you had the 24 page minimum. ;) But that's a matter of opinion.
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Neo-Zander Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well for your printing needs... I'd just say Kinkos. They'd do it nice and clean.

Beyond this you might want to just print and do it yourself. Perhaps have Kinkos print them on good paper, and then get your self a binding machine (I'd recommend a decent 2 to 4 punch staple press but thats just me.)

Or if you have a friend that does presentations or meetings for corporate types ask them if they have the supplies.
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pauljs75 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You could use something like Scribus (if you don't have InDesign) to produce a booklet layout with the desired dimensions, then save to .pdf file format. As long as you keep the page number as a multiple of 4, impositon works ok when printing directly from the .pdf reader. (Of course software and printer settings have to be setup right, takes a bit of trial and error.)

The .pdf format will likely be your best bet if you take it to a local printer too. Particularly if you want page spread and layout a certain way.
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RavynCrescent Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
For #Comic-Makers-Club, we list these printers:

I recommend Lion Press. I give out free samples of my comic, and use Lion Press to print and make the booklets. It saves time, and there isn't really a minimum page requirement, so any number works, which is perfect for what you need. They are also one of the few I've found that works with people on the pricing and all the details, you are free to ask or request anything. They actually called me the first time to be certain of the order and the minor details, and offered me solutions that would bring the price down that I hadn't known about. They look out for their customers.

At my group, we have a list of resources that may be beneficial for printing needs and such.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
That's actually a really good deal, how's the quality of the printing?
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RavynCrescent Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
The quality was antastic. I was shocked when it arrived, actually, because it was this tiny little printing shop no one had ever heard of... I think that's why they are so reliable on being able to call and ask if there are any questions or concerns.

I gave the books away free because the printing was cheap enough, and since I'm only just now becoming serious about my comics (it's always been just a passing hobby to keep my mind occupied and make others happy, now I want to actually make money from it), I used it to get people to my site for the ad revenue and it paid off well. Absolutely no complaints from anyone. The ink didn't smear when I held it, the paper didn't crease or tear easily and had a glossy sheen to it. It had weight to it, as well, which did add a bit to the shipping charges, but was well worth it for the result. I still have people coming to the site from their friends passing along the book, so it's lasted over a year with no issues.

They did not look like 100% professional comics, but they looked greater than anything Kinkos had ever provided for me, and for the price I cannot complain. The only reason I felt it did not look like a professional comic was that the paper was too thick, and there were white edges, but over all it was the same quality and look as when I print myself, or when I go to Staples to do it, and the price and the time it saves it worth it.
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BearPawPaw Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
I was at a convention and had a table next to :iconprodigybombay: once, she mentioned she prints very cheaply at Costco, I believe? I asked if she meant Kinko's and she frantically shook her head and said to never go there, which I second. Here's the site! [link] I print through my school's printing company at a discount so I never need to worry about these things, but good luck! :)
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mosobot64 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student General Artist
Ka-Blam: [link] You can pick the size you want (min 12 pages), number of copies you want (min 1), and they'll get you your comics in a timely fashion. It did great for me, it should do fine for you. :D
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