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Seems like I need to clarify a couple things for people. If you don't know what the hullabaloo is all about, please read through the next couple paragraphs. If you're already caught up to the situation please skip to the second half.

Derpy's History
In the first season of Friendship is Magic, an animation mistake rendered a background pony with "derpy" eyes. The producers thought it was cute and left it in, occasionally sticking the pony in various scenes. While many people liked calling her Ditzy Doo (based on a remark made in Winter Round Up), the general internet population started calling her Derpy Hooves. Derpy became such a huge phenomenon online that the producers decided to include her in more episodes for Season 2. In Season 2 she started appearing more up close and doing strange things in the backgrounds, making for a fun game of "where's waldo" for the fans. The capper to all this was when Derpy got a speaking role in an episode and was referred to AS Derpy by Rainbowdash.

The fan community expectantly went wild. The very idea that a show made for little girls becoming popular with adults and then having the show producers both acknowledge and accept this in such a public fashion was unheard of.

Concerns
not everyone was happy with it. A number of parents and a couple bronies felt that having her named "derpy" was an insult to kids who genuinely have a medical disorder resulting in crossed eyes. They raised their complaints, but Hasbro didn't seem to care.

The First incident
Then it was noted that the episode Derpy had been in was missing from the iTunes library and suddenly all hell broke lose. A number of bronies took this to mean that Hasbro was trying to "remove" Derpy from the show and they threw an internet tantrum. Despite there not being any evidence that Hasbro WAS removing Derpy, the whole community instantly lept into trying to defend her character from the parents who had raised a complaint earlier. Letters were sent, e-mails were sent, videos were made, artwork was made, and if you've ever graced DA, memebase, or YouTube you probably saw at least SOME of this going on.

In the end Hasbro released a statement saying they had no intentions of changing Derpy, and the matter seemed to be at an end.

The New incident
Recently, as in only a day or two ago, it was discovered that the iTunes episode containing Derpy had been altered. Her voice had been changed, her eyes had been uncrossed (for some scenes), and Rainbowdash no longer referred to her as Derpy. Once again, without any evidence of what's going on, the brony community is leaping into action to "defend" Derpy once more, despite there being the potential that this is all a missunderstanding. The DVD version of the episode remains unchanged, and only the iTunes version is different.

In My Opinion
A number of bronies are a little annoyed that I decided to lump ALL the brony community together in the handling of the whole Derpy issue in my last journal. The reason I chose to do this is because I feel that this whole thing could've been avoided had the brony community ignored the fuss and not drawn so much attention to it by instinctively feeling they had to "defend" Derpy.

As many people have told me in the past, the best way to deal with the small vocal group of people is to simply ignore them. Yes there was a tiny percentage of the brony community who were unhappy with the way Derpy was presented, and there was also a tiny percentage of real parents genuinely offended by Derpy. But they were the minority and the general perception from the community was that they loved Derpy and were extremely satisfied with the way she was inserted into the episodes. But by drawing attention to the vocal minority's concerns and reflexively defending Derpy against them, the community as a whole made such a fuss that even people not familiar with My Little Pony became aware that something was going on.

The bronies that raised an outcry over Derpy represents a small and minuscule portion of the brony community. BUT we shouldn't have reacted the way we did to these people, especially in light of such overwhelming lack of concrete evidence. Bottom line: We're all to blame for what happened, and I include myself in the mix too. I am not at all happy with the way we have treated this whole scenario and even though we were right to defend Derpy, we should have had the resolve to not draw attention to a non-existent issue. By defending Derpy like that, we've essentially marked her for future issues because now people are aware of her and critical of how anything involving her is going to be handled.

As I mentioned in my last journal we don't know why Hasbro decided to change that one scene for the iTunes download. There's a rumor going on right now that Hasbro had nothing to do with it and it might've been Apple who did it (which would explain the poor redubbing and slopping dialogue change). The DVD version of the episode remains un-changed, making this rumor seem a lot more logical.

As Sherlock Holmes once famously said "Data, data, data! I cannot make bricks without clay!"

We don't have enough information and yet people are leaping to these outrageous conclusions and trying to explain things with wild abandon. My suggestion to the brony community, and the reason I was so harsh on all of us in my previous journal, is that we need to take a step back, see how things play out first, THEN file the appropriate response to the factual data we've obtained.

I've brought this up before, but overreaction to internet drama like this is pretty common, especially with fan groups. It happens all the time with video game world. I've had to deal with this sort of mentality far too often and I just want people to stop reflexively reacting to everything so negatively, especially in light of the absence of data.

Hasbro has already issued a statement before that they had no intention to change Derpy, and I find it hard to believe they'd change that only a few weeks after they issued it. Stop freaking out, stop blaming people, and wait for the facts before you start hitting the forums with your righteous indignation, flooding memebase and DA with sad pony art of derpy being "abused" by Hasbro, and creating hundreds of internet petitions.

Until there is solid proof that the reason Derpy was changed for the iTunes download is a result of Hasbro trying to "remove" Derpy from the MLP:FIM cannon, I see no reason why we must blow this out of proportion and freak out like the world is ending.

RELAX people...
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OfLanceTheLonginus Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
who gives a fuck
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DTJB Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And once again, I still don't have HUB.
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daisyofthenight Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
People need to learn how to chill.
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eddsworldbatboy1 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
we should kill the bronies who did this! i think we should do it literally, but since its illegal ill not do it
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CaptainSelection Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know people
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eddsworldbatboy1 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
k
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
omfg.

Why the hell to people find Derpy offensive, but not those two 'unattractive' ponies that brought the massive monster into town to test that traveling magicians powers??? I forgot their names, and most details...

They were, if at all, more offensive than Derpy, with their unusual voice, uni brows and buckteeth.
The stereotypical idiot.
BUT NO ONE MADE A FUSS OVER THEM. NO ONE.

Also, BRONIES ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON EARTH. Or at least the 99% of them.
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ShealShpal Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012   Digital Artist
are you implying 1% as your smart self l0l
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No, because I'm no brony :|. I'm saying bronies are mostly retarded, but there are some normal ones too.
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ShealShpal Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012   Digital Artist
why do you care on this topic, then? (personally, I don't care which way it is)
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Because, I like watching MLP occasionally, but that doesn't make me a Brony.
Besides, even if I didn't have anything to do with MLP, I can still have an opinion on this retarded issue. Outsiders are able to see how dumb the majority of bronies are.
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ShealShpal Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012   Digital Artist
Yes, I know you can still have an opinion, but you gave a full assed one 8'(
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
So, stating the truth is "Giving a full assed opinion"? ;)
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ShealShpal Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012   Digital Artist
:icondolanplz: yes....
lolsarcasm, but it was your opinion.
i don't hang out with a lot of people so i don't know :icongoobyplz:
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camiandfriends2009 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
Relax, take it easy!
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Pinkinfrench Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Exactly.
I'm really only upset about this because our main shout-out from the show is now gone. Though, honestly it's Hasbro's show and NOT ours. We need to remember this, they've already done so much for us and now we're taking it for granted. If we keep on acting so horribly, and sending so much hate/spam, they may not do any of these things for us ever again.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm just going to go with the flow, sure it's sad that Derpy got censored, but if it's what the show and the makers want then I guess that it's for the best.
To me, Derpy's appearance was to show that the makers care about and listen to us, and they still will listen to us unless we take the hate and spamming too far. The appearance did happen, and as long as we can remember that then we all know that they do still care about the fandom. Besides, there has been shout-outs on the show before and, most likely, many more will come. From what I heard, some of the staff seemed a bit sad about Derpy's appearance going too.
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octobersanctuary Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Well said
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vampire-yuki Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I enjoy that you went and explained this. I've been watching MLP: FIM but I never really noticed derpy before. Sad to say but I was completely confused on the fuss about her. Thanks for clearing it up!
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SkylerFarrier Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Simply put...thank you.
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Aura-Reaper Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, I'm a Brony and I found out that the Derpy Change in the episode "The Last Roundup" has been announced by Hasbro as being iTunes only. Derpy will continue living on in the future of MLP: FIM.

The problem was that iTunes pulled it due to complaints (And this move was after the leak of "Hearts and Hooves Day") and basically told the people in charge of the show "We won't re-post it until you change that one pony"

End of discussion. /)Brohoof(\ to all
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You are awesome for having evidence, unlike most bronies...

:)
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Aura-Reaper Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
To quote the Boondocks, "The absence of evidence does not mean the evidence of absence" but, in this case it did. I research before I argue :iconmegustaplz::iconbrohoofplz:
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconfluttershyyesplz: Do you have a source for that? I missed the whole Derpygate and am now trying to gather the facts :meow:
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Aura-Reaper Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconbrohoofplz: I do have a source :)

[link] <-- That is the journal of an animator on the show who says AND I QUOTE "On the issue on Derpy whether she'll have the same Derp face expression and stuff. As an animator of the show, rest assured, she'll be fine."
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:icondrwhofuckyea1plz::icondrwhofuckyea2plz:
:icondrwhofuckyea3plz::icondrwhofuckyea4plz::iconsaysplz:"I survived Derpygate. Like a HORSE!" :iconbrohoof1plz::iconbrohoof2plz:
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Orgeston Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
This whole thing is just plain ridiculous. People are too sensitive nowadays. Can you imagine someone trying to get by with creating Goofy today? It probably wouldn't work. I mean, she's just a funny looking character! Appreciate the 'Where's Waldo?' factor and get on with it, people.
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CMB007 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Let me just state my opinion about the whole ordeal itself as well.

I'm not mad at Hasbro's decision. I will state that loud and clear. Am I a little saddened? Yes. Honestly, I liked Ditzy ((Which was Derpy's original name, or at least me and my group of bronies spectate)) when she had appeared in the episode. The change strikes me as odd, since I am and will be accustomed to her old voice and mannerism. It doesn't stick to me, but, I knew there has to be some reason, although I do not know what it is. Therefore, I have no ill will towards Hasbro or anyone else because of that.

However, let me say that as those who ARE avid fans of the show have made not only mad at them, but deeply saddened as well.

You would not BELIEVE the hate I've witnessed all around the darn place. ESPECIALLY Faust's own page. It literally sickened me to see that people were that blind and stupid. It's appalling to see how bloodthirsty people can be when something changes to a show that they like.

I'm siding with you here Andy. The Whiny Bronies dug their own graves with something they did not even do their research on, nor know the cause of it all. I'm going to do the right thing about it though. I'm participating with other bronies who want to ENCOURAGE the company and the people who make the show. They don't need all this senseless hate, they're just doing their job.

Sorry, had a bit of a rant there...
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Cheetaur Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
400 comments...wow! Ah so is the Derpy issue resolved, someone said Hasbro put out a statement?
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Moguryuu Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
+10 respect points to DeviantART user TomPreston!!

Honestly I don't understand the big deal over Derpy though, since I've never really been fond of her ever since she got a 'voice'. Like yeah, the creators listened to the fans. Not like this never happens at all, right?

Of course, I'm just talking as a huge AJ fan who wished more people who notice the Last Roundup as something besides OMFG DERPY SPOKE and OMFG DERPY IS RUINED. Ah, whatever. That's life.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, it doesn't happen all that often. Shows are usually made very far in advance and creators tend to be very distant with their fans. For a show like this, which was aimed at young girls, to not only embrace their unusual demographic, adult men, but also to make reference to the community within the show in real time... it's practically unheard of.
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Moguryuu Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Really? I hear about stuff like this all the time. Maybe not to the same degree as Derpy, but there's quite a bit of acknowledgement and love. Huh. Maybe I'm just in all the lucky fandoms.
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Lunakaria Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
I actually don't mind the voice change, they certainly could have done worse. I'm actually wondering what is this DVD version of the episode that you keep referring too, everywhere I look to buy a DVD format just takes me back to iTunes.
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Sarusuke Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much what I've wanted to say about this, but you said it better.
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Healing-Touch Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
"The squeaky wheel gets the oil." I agree, Hasbro was just trying to shut the over-enthusiastic brony group up. The worst part was that a few people got SO uptight over a fictional character that everyone who loved Derpy as she was now has to pay for it. Thanks, guys.
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Gordon-Freeman1337 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
The new Derpy voice.... ಠ_ಠ
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Hyenawolf49 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why is everyone making such a fuss about a bunch of pixels on a screen?
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SilusCrow Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Well besides being emotionally invested in a predominantly fan-created character, many felt that the change was unneeded and pandering to the offended vocal minority.
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Barrel-Dragon Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
as one of those who leapt to defend Derpy, I think I'm in the position to speak for us as to why we did this, or certainly why I did. I, of course, truly love Derpy. spotting her in an episode makes my day, so I think you can guess my reaction to her adorable scene in 'The Last Roundup' :3 when I heard people were trying to get rid of her, I was furious. I couldn't lose my beloved Derpy. and when I heard there were people trying to take official action to put an end to Derpy, I panicked. I felt I had to do something, so I signed the petition. I made a move to save Derpy, and felt a hundred percent happier for it. so yes, if we hadn't done anything Hasbro probably would have ignored the minority of people who thought Derpy offensive and nothing would have changed, but at the time, I wasn't thinking. all I was thinking of was how I couldn't afford to lose Derpy, and how I would do anything to save her. and we won in the end. so what the hey.

and then I heard today Derpy's scene had been changed ;-; I felt like my life had been ruined. and then I found out it was just that one episode being changed for sale on itunes. and I laughed XD I mean, let's face it, it's not that big a deal. yes, it shouldn't have happened, but we still get to keep all Derpy's other cameos, even on itunes, and the episodes in other places will stay just the same. it doesn't affect me anyway, I don't even HAVE itunes.
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Zorgulon Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
It would be really sad if they actually did remove our beloved Derpy, but I must say that it is way too much fuzz about it. It's fine with some artwork and stuff like that, but not to send angry letters to Hasbro! That's just plain stupid :P
What we broines should do is to just take a step back and wait, and if something really does happen, then we can take the APPROPRIATE action.

And something that puzzles me is why some people are offended by Derpy...She is a clumsy background character who appears pretty rarely. But say Ed from Ed, Edd n' Eddy is a mian character who has the potential to be ALOT more offensive. He has a bathtub full of sauce for crying out loud xD.
Don't get me wrong, I love Ed! I'm just sharing my opinion ^^
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FrostStreak Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
I love Derpy, and I'd be sad to see her go but...

LMAO why freak out over it? If people keep flipping out over it it'll just make things worse ><
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Dizzie-Dog Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahh, Bronies. I love how they claim they stand for "Love and Tolerance", but then when something like this happens, they turn into the angry mob, pitch forks and torches and everything (Ok so not every Brony is like that, but there is a frightening number who are =P).

I will admit, when I first heard about the situation, I was in support of Derpy, and having disabled family members myself I put my side across in that petition going around, in a friendly manner of course, that she wasn't an offensive character and that her appearance is lovable. Heck, I even drew a bit of fanart in support XD. But I didn't make a big deal over it, and if her name was changed in the show then so be it, wasn't gonna stop fans from calling her that as they did before her name was mentioned in the show.

Having Derpy being called that officially was, I'd imagine, a really nice thing for the fans, and just goes to prove how much of a strong relationship Hasbro has with it's fanbase, it's pretty cool even from a non-brony's point of view. Sadly, I think this has also brought up something bad in the fanbase, as though they believe this now gives them power over the show itself, and if something isn't as they want, then they'll fight to high hell to fix it, as is evident in this case.
I feel pretty sorry for Hasbro, they make a show that they only intended for little girls to watch, gain a huge fanbase of an entirely mixed audience and form a loving bond with them, then get slapped in the face by them if something doesn't go there way, almost like an abusive partner =S.

And this is why we can't have nice things, seriously people, just chill out XP... "Love and Tolerance for all!" remember?
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I agree with you wholeheartedly :clap: I still have to catch up on a lot, but while some Brony reactions are heartwarming, others were quite hostile and hysterical. In the end, Hasbro would have taken less heat from them if it had never awarded Derpy her name and voice in the first place. Which is rather upsetting, because "Ignore the fanbase" should definitely not be the lesson of the day. Talk about bad incentives... :facepalm:
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SilusCrow Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
See, at first when I heard that the episode was reworked, I was, well, angry. I was already riled up about the whole "Derpy is offensive" controversy, and this just threw fuel to the fire. And mind you, this sort of angry isn't "I wanna punch something" but rather a "Rally the troops, we're going on the warpath" kinda angry. Didn't help that I watched BaldDumboRat's "Sorry" video, 'cause oh my God.

But then I took a step back, calmed down, had some pizza and looked at the whole thing once more. Now I'm a lot more mellow about this. Sure, I still don't agree with the people that thought/think Derpy is offensive (I see them as annoying Moral Crusaders, the same people that try to ban dodgeball because the fat kids keep getting hit and it's "unfair"), but with realizing that it's only the iTunes version that has been affected, I feel much better. I mean, the iTunes version is optional. The televised version and the DVDs will still carry the original, so we'll still have the version we know and love.

So thanks for the clarification Tom, you helped me simmer down.
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconraritycryingplz: I just watched BaldDumboRat's "Sorry" video...
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ilnaras Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think the reason behind the brony fury is this: I think I can speak for quite a few of us in saying that we've seen far too many things ruined when a small, but very vocal, group of people whined loudly and persistently and got their way. The majority might enjoy it, but that small group has to ruin it for everyone.

We would have liked it if the figures of Lyra would have been called Lyra, instead of "Heartstrings." But you know, que sera sera. Those of us who have loved cartoons since being kids have kind of gotten used to that.

But then we got Derpy. It was unofficial and fanon, but we liked it, and we love her. But actually having the name show up was like a love letter. A major company actually listened to us and used our idea. Big companies never listen to us! They just put stuff out and demand we watch it. But Hasbro actually listened and we got Derpy as an official thing.

It's like a love letter! Honestly, that's what it feels like.

But we've seen the detractors and how they've been so vocal. Now we see the change being made, and it's hard not to put 2 and 2 together. We feel like we've been cheated, and all because a small group gets needlessly offended.

And people are surprised at our reactions? Granted, name calling and threats are no way to go about trying to bring change. But people don't like when things they love are changed, and, again, I think I speak for most of us, we're tired of small groups ruining things for us.

In the past, if something was changed, most of us were helpless to see it corrected. Now, we see it changed, and we can act and make our voices heard. And we don't want our love letter from Hasbro torn out of our collective hand and torn up.

And Derpy herself... Well, cartoon character or no, our brains wired to accept whatever we see and experience as a reality. That why we wake up from nightmares sweating and screaming. The brain doesn't differentiate. So Derpy, as well as any other character in fiction, has a reality on a certain level. We have an emotional attachment to that reality.

And, sometimes, fictional characters can be more real to us that people with heartbeats.

And Derpy is a pony literally born with a birth defect. She's the result of an animation error. But she was, over the course of the show, given quirks and shortcomings that endeared us to her. We've had two years invested in coming to love her. That's a big emotional investment. To have it suddenly removed is like having the rug jerked out from under us. It's jarring.

So, understand this, we don't want to lose what we've gained just because a small group of people want to ruin it for everyone else.

There's quite a few cartoons on television that I find stupid and offensive. I don't watch those shows. I don't write letters and try to have them pulled from the airwaves. I just don't watch them. If you don't like Derpy, either don't watch the show, or ignore her. It's that simple.

On a personal note, besides liking Derpy herself, I have a long-distance relationship with a woman who has a lazy eye. It's not as pronounced as Derpy's or others' eyes, but it is there, and since I'm able to see her from a distance, seeing Derpy reminds me of my lady, and makes me smile every time I see this little pony.

So, we have to be vocal, because we don't want what we love taken away. Name calling and threats aren't the right way, but we can't stay silent, or we lose one more thing that matters to us. We love our little Derpy.
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconsalute1plz::iconsalute2plz: Well spoken, my fellow Brony. Well spoken! :salute:
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GreyscaleRainbowXx Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish I could favorite your comment. This is exactly what I've been trying to find the words to describe. Every time I've tried to explain to people, I delete what I wrote because it doesn't sound right. I applaud you, and the author of this journal.
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Aquarior Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
You can favorite it here :nod:
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GreyscaleRainbowXx Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!!! :heart: You have such a way with words! ^_^
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