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I'm leaning on the side of axing it entirely. I know that I pretty much owe my online "fame" to the popularity of SYAC, and that despite a small core group of naysayers the vast majority of my watchers love the series... but I personally have always had problems with it. It was never meant to be more than a few strips long, and my attempts to turn it into a full blown series have been awkward and clumsy at best.

Using myself as the main character for SYAC was a huge mistake, one which I realized early on and one which you can see me struggle with throughout the rest of the series. Even after completely retooling it to be a new story with Emily and Jade, I didn't get very far into it before complications forced me to stop.  I don't really want to do anything with SYAC right now, but at the same time I understand there are a lot of fans of the series I need to consider. So here are a couple of ideas I had on what I could do with it, but feel free to jump down into the comments section and add your own.

Upload Sketches?
When I retooled the new series I wrote about 30-40 strips before I started coloring and uploading them so that I wouldn't have to worry about coming up with strips every week. I still have those uninked strips... Maybe I should upload them still in their pencil stage so you can all see what might've been had I continued them? It would at the very least be a way for people to enjoy the last bits of the series without me having to ink and color them...

Unreleased Storyline?
There was also a 15 page short story that I wrote but never inked almost 2 years ago now along the same line as the "Persistence of Vision" idea. Again, still in rough pencil phase, never inked, and has a lot of story beat problems and very loose artwork... It's the underbelly 1st draft of a story but... maybe people would like to read it anyway?

Hire Artists?
Another idea I had was to use SYAC as a brand name and hire artists to tell their own jokes about being a cartoonist. That way there would be a wide variety of opinions and ideas and art styles, but all collected under a single unified subject. I'm sure a lot of artists here would love to get their jokes or stories about being an artist out to a wider audience, and this would be a great way to do that.

Your thoughts?
Those are my thoughts right now... I'm not sure what I should do. If you guys have any suggestions I'd be open to hearing them. I wanna know what you all think I should do with SYAC. Should I continue it with Emily and Jade, should I just upload the sketches and let it die? Should I hire other artists to do strips under the name of SYAC? Should I just end it all completely? What're your thoughts and ideas?
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Mclauritsen Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hirering sounds awesome :D
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Tuckerscreator Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Hirings a nice idea. The best about SYAC is how it's relatable, so letting other artists relate works well!
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kat-ray Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
hire artists is a great idea. It'll be like a network of cartoonists. I, myself am not a cartoonists, but I would love to read other people's SYAC.
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Dyandod Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
About the "Hire Artists" idea... that's pretty interesting, and I know I for one would be up for it. Of course it's a pretty big change, though... I was just thinking, though, that if this was MY strip, I'd probably be pretty... worried, I guess... to let others create it. If you're sure about that then it would be cool but only if you say so!

Anyway, I just wanted to mention I've never really noticed any awkwardness in SYCA. Just my thoughts. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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AzureNova2 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
When keeping up part of your art becomes less of a fun expressive project and turns into a chore that you feel obligated to do, then that's probably a good sign to take a break.

That being said, you are right about how many of your watchers love the series and will be sad to see it go. I know that's the reason why I started following you myself. Go back to how you originally planned it, maybe just add a new strip whenever you get a fun burst of inspiration for it every few months. In the meantime, the hiring new artists idea seems really neat. Or maybe have some sort of submission system or something, so you get a wider variety but still keep it under some control.

But in the long run, it's up to you to decide what to do with SYAC, not the internet's. Good luck. :)
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dorenestel Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
something i always loved about SYAC was the simple fact that it didn't need an overarching story, sure they popped up once in a while but for the most part they were just fun thoughts about life in cartooning, almost like a newspaper comic printed in the funnies each week. yours was the first webcomic i ever followed, if you feel it necessary to let it die so be it, but it would be really sad for me to see it go, if you want to introduce new characters to poke fun at art i'de love it, even having multiple artists do it under one theme would be fun, but i would love it if you would stay involved, this was the first comic i ever discovered that really gets me, friends see a comic from SYAC and don't always get it, but me loving art and cartooning, i laugh and sympathize with the characters.
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Shadi-mei Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist
"Hire Artists" option sounds like swag, I'd love to see the unique jokes various people come up with, and I think the fans would love to be working with an artist they respect so much
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Starlit-Sorceress Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
1. I'd like to read the unfinished stories, so if you're not going to finish them, I'd at least like to see the sketches.


2. Why don't you draw it all, but have people submit stories?? That's what I'd do, given your situation.

It's easy for you. People send in comments about their personal cartoonist stories, you pick the best ones, and make them into comics, each with a different star.
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rosey-kins115 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know this is late, but when I first found SYAC I really got into it straight away and it's because of your comic that I've started getting into other web comics too. But, if you are truly fed up with SYAC and you don't enjoy making it anymore, then I think you should do what you think is best. I do enjoy SYAC, but if you do stop making it, then I'll always have the ones which are already uploaded. I have already read through them multiple times and do not mind doing it again and again. If you don't enjoy it anymore then put it aside and only upload random little things whenever you feel like it or either stop it altogether.
Or maybe you could turn the site into something for guest artists so they can draw their own versions of SYAC and you could post it on the site, that way you might not have to feel like it's too much of a burden.
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angelic-cheetah Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
I actually really like the idea of Hiring Artists, because then it would kind of allow the web-comic community to get together and add in their own opinions. As someone who follows roughly 45 web-comics on a daily/bi-daily/mon-wed-fri/whenever-they-update basis, I would be interested to see what other cartoonists go through as well.
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Negaduck9 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Late to the party, but oh well...

What do you want to do? Do you want to continue SYAC? If you no longer enjoy it, if it's more a burden than a pleasure, then I'd say let it go, or at least put it aside for the time being. You may want to return to it later. If not, well, you'll be doing other things.

If you don't enjoy SYAC, then why consider squeezing more of them out? That's a good way to come to hate something, and it's not like you're getting paid to make them.

I enjoyed SYAC in its various forms, but if there are no more, well, I'll still have the existing ones.
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SugoiMe Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This a bit of a late reply and you probably won't get to reading it, but I liked the "hired artists" idea. I liked the randomness of SYAC; it's what got me on to following you on this site. I think it's because they don't follow a story line so much that I like them. And they have a titch of real life experiences that I'm sure a lot of us can relate to. It's a shame you're considering ditching them, but whatever floats your boat.
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GoreLoverd Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Whatever floats your boat, I say.
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chocobohero Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I say take a chance and go with what you want to do! The gamble will be worth it no matter how it turns out. Success and experience go hand-in-hand.
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psuzuki Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Just do what you said you were originally going to do with it, and just update it every-so-often with small things you do on the side. It is not a bad strip, or a bad idea by any means, you just seem to have gotten a little more involved with it than you really wanted too.

We all know you have your hands full, and you have been doing it, Brentalfloss, Formera, and whatever other projects you have planned. It does not have to be once a week, or even a month. Just post whatever extra things you come up with, when they happen.
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Magmos Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
I think it would be a good idea to hire some artists, but still keep going with Emily and Jade.
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okaminekowiesel Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
I "found" you through syac, the best tip was to work on +120% to hide unevenness in lines. Very helpful!
A long story arc was interesting, but confusing. I thought of syac more of a single strip comic, with some goal far away at best.

I would really like to see the arc end somehow, otherwise it's very dissatisfying not to know. I take your sketches gladly.
And inviting other artist/cartoonist sounds good as well. syac has become some kind of brand indeed.

And maybe, just maybe, you'd like to rant through a comic on syac.
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svinc Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Don't let SYAC die!
Your fans love your work. Hiring artists would be an awesome way of keeping SYAC alive.
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baluka44 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think you should do it all, but not scrap the idea. Maybe you could get people to send in their stories and upload them instead, or have a site to do so. I'd personally love to see those other sketchers that were uploaded as well. Maybe you could post your own strip every now and again once a month or even further apart. But that's just my take on it. I believe other artists would love the idea of sharing silly stories of experiences. Everyone does.

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DTJB Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So that girl is never going to wake up and realize she's late for class? Anyway, I'd go for sketches or artist collab.
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DisneyFanJulia Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hire an artists :)
or even just a collaboration since there is no money in the comic
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Paolyx Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
The sketches would be nice since we could know a wee bit more on what was supposed to happen. And then the contribution of other artists can be a nice thing, though you'll need to see if the idea of it attracts anyone. But you don't need to force yourself into continuing the comic if it doesn't interest you anymore.
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flamepointiger Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
I'd be sad to see SYAC disappear forever. If you just put funny panels at a rate of 1-12 a year as inspiration struck, that would be fine. Hiring artists also sounds viable, as long as you and the artists make money off of it.

Don't burn yourself out, ignore the trolls, and keep being awesome!
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flyingdoombunny Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Axe it, and work more on your other comics. it was good, but got... dull. And did you make any money from it anyway?
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SakuraRuby Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the idea of having other artists contribute c: Even though I'm not a professional artist, I have my share of funny stories. That would be interesting.
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Dewdropmon Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Personally I liked the strips with your cartoon self best and I kind of wish you would continue those.....
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DanFourth Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think the idea of hiring other artists would be awesome. like get people to note you and pitch their ideas for jokes. and if you like them have them do a strip. I bet you'd get loads of people wanting to upload. throw in a link to their DA or whatnot and it would also be a good way for people starting out to get some kind of publicity.
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EASMO Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
My two cents: your worst mistake was actually listening to the hordes of flamers and changing SYAC. The old formula of your avatar complaining about things worked wonderfully for me, and while Im all for trying new things, its obvious the full stories were just means of fixing whatever complains were there at the moment rather than genuine creativity, hence why you never got very far into making more of them, though Id still like the last one to get finished at least.

So yeah, I liked comics abot Andy complaining about things. Flamers and haters can go eat a rotten banana or whatever.

Just do whatever you feel like doing now and do not let people burn you. I know its easier said than done from my comfy internet anonimity, but still, keep your cool and keep producing those awesome comics you do without worrying that much about assholes.
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Dewdropmon Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
I liked those best too.
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AndreaTn Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I would love to see the sketches you didn't ink. Your ideas are always good, if not great, so I think we can enjoy them in pencil.
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Kapten-N Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
All of the ideas! :iconallthethingsplz:
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shareyourworldwide Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
You could do all three, upload some of the uninked stuff into your scraps if you don't want your main gallery filled with it.
The idea for multiple artists sounds really good and would be the best solution for the SYAC series.
Cheers
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Meeowy Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
rough sketches are always great to see :-)
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verriterriberri Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
If you're tired with it, then drop it.
But I do think the idea of making it a brand and hiring other artists is a good one :)
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forbiddenhero Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Writer
I love the idea of SYAC, and I'd hate to see you gone from it completely, but you have a lot of options to go with it as well. Seeing other artists and their takes on the idea is a wonderful idea, but there are also writers, like me, who'd love to get in on the fun as well.
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LadySparrow01 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student General Artist
I love all those ideas. I'd really like for you to continue but I also really like all the ideas you've suggested. : )
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Atata Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd love to pitch in as well, kinda miss your oldschool syac as well... wondering if wii u will release an art program soon.
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zonkey Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Rather then hiring an artist, you could use the fame of SYAC as a pass along comic. I have seen it done in some comic book challenges were someone starts the story and after a point passes it on to another comic artist who adds it to it and passes it on. Gives an interesting twist and story, keeps the ideas fresh and unique.
Pass it on to close friends to help you with it, it gives them some exposure they link it back to you as the idea starter. You can screen the comic before it goes up to avoid certain unwanted content. Everyone kind of wins because the main stress of the strip is taken off of you, some artist get more exposure and the stories can continue for the readers. Ideally it would make a good dA group... after all look at how many people who have commented here saying they would love to be part of SYAC.
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narutofangirl1213 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You shouldn't stress yourself out. Stick to what makes you happy. Make jokes about being an artist. Probably not the best advice, but I'm sure everyone will have their 2 cents come together.
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Kanouchi Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the idea of continuing it with other artists.
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x13spiral13x Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
I really like the idea of hiring artists to do SYAC's, I think it would let it run for a lot longer because the jokes are fresh, new, and in some cases potentially very opposite or strange compared to other strips in the comic. I think would give a really nice variety, and you are in turn creating small jobs for many artists, which I think anyone trying to make a living as an artist would greatly appreciate =P

Your first option also sounds like it would be fun, but I know scanning (if that's how you upload them) large amounts of pictures can be a little bit of an annoying process. I think you could release them slowly when you felt like it, or possibly let them run when there was a week nobody wanted to make a comic assuming you took the hire other artist idea =P Always nice to have backups =P

Although I would love to see either of these things happen, honestly I would just say do whatever you feel is best for yourself. If that means getting rid of the comic, then so be it-especially if you're not enjoying it or just don't know where to take it. Sometimes it's better to let something die than let it end on a bad note.

I hope at least one of these things proves helpful to you, I really enjoyed the series and whatever happens, thanks for the comics you did make and if there are more then I'll be glad to see them =P
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Calicara Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Writer
I would love to see you hire other artists! I do enjoy seeing your point of view, but it would interest me to see others points of view as well. It would definitely be really cool and awesome!
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chibi-cheeks Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
I'm not sure where my opinion stands in the collective that is the internet but even when you first talked about changing the format of the SYAC comics I had my reservations about it. I loved the old format of when it was pretty much you sharing your opinions and experiences about being not just a cartoonist but an artist in general. I identified with them in every possible way. I can't say I fully understand why you felt the need to change the format at all.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the newer ones with Carl and Tenko and even the one about Cleo. They offered good lessons to budding artists. I can't say much about the writing aspect of them since I myself am not much of a writer but after those two, that format of SYAC kind of lost it's momentum. When you went back to the old format as filler between main stories I was overjoyed to see them and relate to them again.

As for the future of SYAC, I think it would be insulting to just end it right now. Finish the current story then stop if you want to. It would be super fun to see some unfinished stuff but, instead of sharing them here, maybe you could publish them into an art book so die hard SYAC/Tom Preston fans could buy them. I know I would.

I know I am not so articulate and I may not sound as intelligent as I think I am but I put a lot of thought into comments like these and I really hope they reach your eyes.
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SoulSilverHeartGold Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I echo CrescoTheEKO's suggestion.
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Yosamu Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
There's a comic called "Busty Girl Comics" about the problems (and perks) that busty girls face in their every day lives. Recently she ended the comic because she didn't have any more good ideas for it and because she wanted to move on to something else.
There's nothing wrong with ending a series, especially when it was intended to be something small. I feel like the best series are the ones that actually end and don't go on and on and on. If they do, they get dry and repetitive.
I like the idea of you uploading the sketches and rough drafts, and also allowing other people to use SYAC as a "brand name" type thing. It could be fun :)
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wind-adept-Ivan Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
I kinda like the idea of having a bunch of artists taking turns telling stories about their experiences. But at the same time, I'd really like to see what you had in mind for the current storyline.

But if you don't feel like you'd enjoy doing it, I'd say don't. If you force yourself to continue doing something you don't like, it'll just wear you down further, and that's no fun for anyone. I dunno about anyone else, but my favorite series are the ones where you can tell the creator is having fun with it. As a viewer, I get a sense of enjoyment out of that, just like creators get satisfaction from seeing their work being enjoyed by their audience. It's a back-and-forth that I think is essential to have in this media, and there's no point in trying to force it to happen. Sure, I'll be sad to see it go, but I'll understand the reasoning behind it and just look forward to the next big thing.

Sorry if that doesn't make much sense, I just got off work and my mind's a bit scattered... ^^;
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kakashishippuden Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
I love the series, but if you don't have the heart to continue it, then don't. It will only frustrate you and consume all of your time. I'm sure many of your watchers would understand.
But if you really feel you want it to go on, like in the means you listed, sure.
It's your ultimately decision.
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CrescoTheEKO Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
Upload Sketches? Yes!
It's always bad when something gets cancelled, but it's mostly fun to see: "What could've been".
I'm an avid fan of Unseen64.net for a reason. I just love to see what people had in mind before they went with something else or didn't went with it at all. =3

Unreleased Storyline? Again, just like my previous answer: Yes.
It'd be interesting to see what went through your head as you were designing the series. ^w^

Hire Artists? Sure, that would seem interesting and I agree with you on the fact that it could provide a wider spectrum of visions on the subject at hand. Everything is fine by me but I vastly support the first two. =3
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a-elly Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm hmm. Well, sorry if my English isn`t polished enough. I`ll try to tell my opinion as well as I can.

My personal fav idea here is variation "hire artists" Plus ~jackdude180 `s comment, where he writes about starting a club. But, in this club (as for me) there should be art about other self-based characters, not *TomPreston-based, just to not mix them together, with keeping same style of drawing and panels. Also, with quality not lower than in original, - because SYAC is not some kind of meme-based pics with advise, it has it`s own charm. And part of it charm is in style, too.
In brand, which means selling art, - well, I`m not expandind my "plus" for this variation just because tens of other people here did it before. +.

About Jade and Emily`s storyline - you are really free in your choose to upload or not scetches. The last panels are pretty calm, there`s no some push moments in the last picture (like, for example, somebody throwing a vase in someone, where is logical for audience to wait for vase`s landing in next panel).
If you`ll hire some artists to finish this storyline, then maybe not-inked scetches should be posted after their work. If not - well, it`s pretty interesting to watch how it could continue. The same thing is about unrealeased storyline.
(oh well, I`d like to read them whatewer quality they are, just as a fan... but I`m not the whole audience and not the author. Whatewer, SYAC is fun comic, and big thanks for creating it. )
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