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You cannot transfer your collection of UMD based PSP games to the Vita.
If you want to play the games you already bought for the PSP you must rebuy them.
You have to buy an expensive proprietary memory card if you want to save anything.
Without an expensive proprietary memory card, many Vita games can't be played at all.
The battery life for the Vita is worse than the 3DS's.
Downloaded games are only about 10% cheaper than the same retail version.
AT&T is the service carrier for the Vita.
The cheapest phone plan only nets you 250mb a month.
The device has already been hacked.

The cheapest you can get a Vita (while getting the smallest memory card and cheapest monthly data plan) is roughly $295. If you actually want to get an enjoyable experience out of the device the most expensive that you'd have to pay (including the most expensive memory card and data plans) is $480. Neither of those prices factor in the cost of games.

While I may personally love the Big N more than other companies, I don't honestly know how an intelligent and reasonable person can watch the continuing mistakes and marketing blunders that Sony keeps repeating and NOT draw the conclusion that they honestly don't know what they're doing.

My questions to Sony? How could you possibly skip out on saving to SD cards in this day and age? Why would you go with the worse phone service in all of North America? It's my understanding that the whole point of doing digital distribution is to cut out the middlemen that cause those high game prices to begin with, so why aren't digital downloads much cheaper than retail versions? Why allow backwards compatibility (which still costs a small fee) for Japan but then take it completely away for North American?

It seems that Sony's answer to the handheld market is HD graphics, console ports, and an extremely limited "mature" gaming demographic. Meanwhile, time has shown us that HD resolutions are rather pointless for small screens and varying light conditions. Most of the biggest selling games tend to be all-age-family-friendly titles like Brainage, Nintendogs, and Pokemon. And having a diverse library that everyone can play, kids and mom's alike, is an extremely important selling point.

Say what you will about the 3DS's slow initial launch, Nintendo at least has a wide variety of games that appeal to all ages. Whether you're a kid, adult, hardcore, or casual, the 3DS has games to fit those key demographics... and they never charged you for transferring your DSi purchases either.

What do yo all think? Is the PS Vita a disaster? Are you going to buy one? If so, which version are you going for (cheap or expensive)? Am I the only one who notices how messed up Sony's marketing is for this device? Is this just a one-time fluke or a continuing issue Sony needs to iron out?
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Safetoss Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012
It just dropped below selling 10000 units in North America this week... ಠ_ಠ
Disaster is the right word.
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DTJB Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Meh, they can always release a newer SLIMMER model in a year or so.
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Visitor257 Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
That's not helping either
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GS-R Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
The Vita isn't HD... I think...
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude, what the hell is your problem? You're obviously a nintendo fanboy, so stop trying to make Sony look bad. You're misinforming people and making tiny things look like a massive problem, sure, you mention the 3G model, but not the fact that the Wi-fi costs the same amount as the 3DS initially did? You aslo don't mention how the memory card is only needed for DOWNLOADED GAMES.
And I fucking hate how you don't mention the MILLIONS OF AWESOME FEATURES. ONLY THE FLAWS.

And what I think the most RETARDED THING YOU SAID WAS: "If you have psp games you NEED to REBUY them to PLAY ON THE VITA."
PLAY THEM ON THE PSP DUMBSHIT.

It's a real douchebag thing to try make a console look bad just because your a stupid ass fanboy of Nintendo.
Up yours.
Goodbye.
Yours Sincerely,
Needleguns. <3
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Incorrect. Many retail games will actually not run unless you have a memory card. So what I said was accurate.

About rebuying: It's become a staple in modern gaming to allow backwards compatibility. Yes you could easily play those older games on the PSP and technically it shouldn't be an issue. But gaming libraries are important, especially for new handheld systems. The 3DS allows you, for example, to play DS games, and the DS before that allowed you to play GBA games, and the GBA allowed you to play original GameBoy games, etc. Backwards compatibility is important and paying close to $400 for a brand new system and NOT being able to play your older titles is a poor marketing decision. Especially if you consider that it's only restricted for North America. Everywhere else you can "port" your library over (for a fee).

I don't have to make the console look bad, it's doing just fine on it's own. Have you heard the latest about software developers jumping ship because of the abysmal sales? And that's before it's even hit North America.
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Visitor257 Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Don't worry. He was probly banned years ago. The down side is that he may hate Nintendo much more, he may even now consider Nintendo the worst gaming company of all time. Which is false because Nintendo is one of the greatest, if not the greatest gaming company of all time.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Writer
And don't claim that backwards compatibility is a universal constant. The latest incarnation of the Wii had weeded out backwards compatibility with Gamecube games. The Playstation 3 has done the same. Developers are trying to ween the public off older games because they don't want to be forced to cater to those games.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah developers ween the public off older games... when those games become old. When the Wii launched it was backwards compatible. The only reason they've removed backwards compatibility with Gamecube Games now is because the Wii-U is coming out this year and it's likely going to allow downloads of Gamecube games on the Virtual Console.

When a new system launches, being able to play the previous system's games is almost a requirement right now. Remember... that's for LAUNCH. A few years after the system has been out removing that feature isn't a big deal.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Writer
weeded*
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Writer
Tom: since you never responded to any of my comments, would you cite the source that supports your claim of the retail games requiring a larger memory stick to play?
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Writer
Thank you, the information is much appreciated. It might have been better to include the source in the original journal, lest you come off as a raging fanboy.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nothing stopping people from googling to see if I'm right or not. I'm not a journalist so I'm not really obligated to cite sources.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012   Writer
But it does make you seem more credible. Your title hints more at an emotional appeal, so it would be best to provide your sources. People reading your journal may feel they know the whole story without need to do further research.
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TomPreston Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I won't deny that I am a Nintendo fanboy at heart. That said, I never would write a journal like that without having done at least a little research first.

I guess the lesson is don't assume and try to cite sources whenever you can. lol
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GoshaDole Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Professional Filmographer
A memory card is $20... is that is out of your budget, I feel sorry for you son.
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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VGviciousKitten Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Damn. Im going to get the 3g version with a monthly plan and I hope that none of our major worries come to pass. Also ive heard rumors of a possible monster hunter game coming for the vita later this year but cant find any info on it, anyone know anything about it?
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012   Writer
I don't know about a new title, but Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is compatible with the Vita's second analog stick.
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VGviciousKitten Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
oh thanks. Ill try it when I get mine.
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Seeing all your replies to people comments on the Vita, I'm guessing you know a lot about it.
See, when I first heard of the Vita I was so excited and could not wait to get it, but now reading the journal Tom posted, I'm kind of uneasy about getting it.
I was going to get the regular Wi-fi version, so the price is TOO bad, but do I really need an expensive sd card to play games? I'm just really confused about how it works now. I thought it would be like the psp, just put in the game and play, but now I'm not so sure what the Vita will be like :( I don't want to spend so much money on something that won't be so great after all and that will just end up draining my mom's wallet... Any suggestions, or info?
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012   Writer
Don't worry. The content of Tom's journal is fabrication.

To answer your question: you do not need to buy a larger memory stick to play games. Like the PSP, the Vita comes with a small memory stick on which to store save files. If you intend to download entire games from the Playstation Store, then you'll need a larger stick on which to store them. If boxed games are more your thing, no larger memory stick is necessary.

Also, the Vita doesn't use standard SD cards. Sony opted to include their proprietary cards, meaning they'll be more expensive and less compatible with devices outside the Vita. An 8GB stick will cost you $30.

My recommendation is to wait until the Vita drops in price. The launch lineup looks solid, but it doesn't warrant the $250 price tag.
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BandiHill3258 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
this makes me sad. I wanted a PSVita but now it sucks. D:
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012   Writer
Except everything in his post is fabrication.
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BandiHill3258 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
explain it more simple please
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012   Writer
No expensive memory card is required to play Vita games. While a larger stick is necessary if you plan to download full games from the Playstation Store, every cartridge based game will run on a naked system.

The 3G plan isn't required. Standard Wi-Fi models of the system will cost you $250 apiece, the same price the 3DS released for.

For the rest, I quote myself:

All consoles end up leaked. Not to mention, "hacked" is a a blanket term. Were the author claiming someone already managed to install custom firmware, I would be impressed, but hacking? No.

Also, here's an article providing further details on the launch of the Vita: [link]

It contains not only a list of launch titles, but the prices of various memory sticks. An 8GB stick will run you $30. Granted, non-proprietary cards are cheaper, but that definitely isn't the backbreaking burden the author of this journal would lead you to believe it is.
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BandiHill3258 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
okay, now it makes sense
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012   Writer
I'd still be hesitant to recommend a Vita, but only because of the price tag. $250 is steep for any handheld.
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BandiHill3258 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i would agree
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PearceComics Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012
I avoid hand helds like they were the plague anyway. That said, Tom should stop posting misleading info about the Vita. The larger memory stick is required to store the downloaded games.

Also, I don't know about anyone else but the HD qualities of an iPhone (or any smartphone) make a huge difference when interacting with the device. I'm sure it will be no different with the Vita.
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gizmar Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
I work on the only gaming store in my country and this is reality: people are constantly coming in asking for the psvita, no matter the price (in my country imported things cost three times what they cost in usa)
You like Nintendo because you like the games it has, Nintendo and Sony do not compete, PS3 and XBOX360 are competitors but they offer different things than WII.
In my own experience I was very excited when I started working to try the wii, I wanted one before. I played on it a few times, but got instantly bored and now when we don't have anything to do I only want to play ps3 because now that I've come close to them I like it MUUCH more.
However the games and the system are different, you like the things Nintendo has and that’s fine, but you shouldn’t compare it to Sony because they're different. No one ever asks us if its better ps3 or wii they ask us about Xbox and ps3. When you compare Sony to Nintendo you are not really comparing the technology or the company, you are basing your judgment in the specific type of games you like to play, and I don't think you should judge other companies for that.
And let me tell you that in the store I work in there is absolutely no down going for Sony whatsoever, it actually sells more, there is no ongoing disaster.
And I can't believe there's so much people here will only take your opinion in consideration and won't do their own research to decide weather to buy the psvita or not, like the comment before mine said, I love your comics but your judgment is obviously biased and you are confusing people who are really interested in the new system.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
Tom, I enjoy your comics, but in this case, you are clearly full of fanboy shit.
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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boguski Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
Wasn't getting it in the first place but with this info, even if someone gave me $480 to buy it and all the other stuff, I would just refuse their money back and tell them to get a 3DS for themselves.

I mean, seriously... seriously? Unable to save any of your games, having to spend EXTRA money just to get that, rebuy old games to play on the new, pay for your own internet (and a slow one at that), and having the damned thing cost like $250.

It's a ticking timebomb, a disaster waiting to happen to any poor soul stupided enough to get it. Sony is going to die soon, like all old gaming companies before it. A new one will arise and take it's place or Microsoft will step up their game and take the world from surprize.

This reminds me, I still need to buy another PS2 or a better conection cord before they become to rare (mines wreaked if you can't tell). I think they're still being made, there are some awesome games on THAT console and it's accutally pretty damn good comepare to what's going on now with them. Sigh I miss those days, always played it when I was younger. I also miss playing Sonic 2 with my Dad :(
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
Forgot to say: like the PSP, the Vita comes with a small memory card for saving.
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boguski Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
Really? That does make sence they would at least put a card in there but if your a big gamer a small card doesn't help too much. With the way you put things it doesn't sound as bad as it could but there are still things wrong with the system that should be change. I don't have any experiance with any PSP so I can't go into any detail but things like the battery, games released for it, and the fact you got to rebuy games you own just toi play on the new PSP is a start.

One Thing I would like to know is how it already got hacked? Since it's kinda impressive it was hacked before release date (it isn't out yet right?).
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
All consoles end up leaked. Not to mention, "hacked" is a a blanket term. Were the author claiming someone already managed to install custom firmware, I would be impressed, but hacking? No.

Also, here's an article providing further details on the launch of the Vita: [link]

It contains not only a list of launch titles, but the prices of various memory sticks. An 8GB stick will run you $30. Granted, non-proprietary cards are cheaper, but that definitely isn't the backbreaking burden the author of this journal would lead you to believe it is.
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boguski Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
True it does sound better and better but if one does not do the research or gets the wrong information they made not choose to buy it or buy the wrong item. The way I'm seeing this is that the Vita seems more like a hard core gaming type console and not one a casual person may get.

Usually when I think of just getting a console I would just get the thing itself after hearing a few things about it (like what makes it so specail). From the first look the whole card thing seemed a little big confusing unless one does the research. After that it seems simple but you kinda got to go out of your way a bit for your typical casual gamer.

It certainly doesn't seem like the type of system someone on a bugget would be able to get too unless they play smart with money or saved up over time. Though that could be said for most systems, so yeah I think Tom got his info wrong, not enough of it, or extended from what it was in the first place.

Also that looks like quite the lot of launch games too. A lot more than the 3DS had I think. That should help it, but I think in general people are starting to get the wrong info on the Vita. Kinda like how the 3D on the 3DS hurt your eyes/ gave headaches even though you could easily turn it off. Vita still not prefect and use some improvements, though I must say those graphics look very nice in the picture from your link.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
Well, people were willing to shell out $250 for the 3DS at launch, so there will doubtless be people willing to shell out the same amount for the Vita. I don't intend to, but only because the price is too high for me. Even if the system looks interesting, I'll wait for the inevitable price drop to $200.

...also... I don't like this assumption that casual gamers are morons. Tom made the same assumption in several of his journals regarding the Wii U. Just because someone games casually doesn't mean they're incapable of listening to news, or doing a little research. I consider myself a casual gamer, since I don't subscribe to the hardcore gamer mentality. Despite that, I still double check my information and pay attention to news releases.
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boguski Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
Well when I was thinking of casual gamers I was kinda thinking of my parents and me. My family kinda doesn't really go into that deep of information unless one of us are really interested in it. I also thuink of most casual gamers of picking items on the fly, they know the gerneal stuff about it but that's about it. They just wait until launch date.

So I guess when I typed that last comment I was thinking to much of my parents who probably wouldn't barely into it. Oh well, sorry about that. Still I was just thinking of all the possibilities so no hard feelings?
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
It's alright, no offense taken. I just think the hardcore perception of casual gamers tends to be too narrow.
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Alexander-Brandt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   Writer
Please, don't buy into the bullshit that is Tom's post.

A larger memory stick is required to play games that you download; as in, you'll need it to store the game. No cartridge based game requires it.

You don't need to buy a model with 3G. The price for the unit with standard Wi-Fi is $250, the same price the 3DS initially retailed for.

Though I enjoy the author's comics, he is clearly very misinformed about the Vita.

And before you ask, yes, I own a DS. No, I don't own a PS3.
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FaeOfDoom Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
AT&T - WHY.

I was already at a point where I'm prepared to boycott Sony anyway, because of how they handled that time PSN was hacked and everyone's information was compromised...how late they informed the public, how they tried to compensate their users for it...and then turn around and change their ToS for the PSN. the users keep losing, and there's not a damn reason for it. this is just a little bit of icing on the lie, I mean cake.
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Needleguns Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sony handled it fine in my opinion and what the hell's wrong with compensating their users? That's awesome. I bet you'd complain if they didn't as well :|
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FaeOfDoom Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012
they knew people's information was compromised and yet didn't tell the public. the PSN was down, no one knew why. they knew.
they offered a handful of old games that the majority of users already owned or wasn't interested in.
they offered a month of their playstation plus service. any games you downloaded during that time thru the service would be taken away if you didn't renew - if you didn't shell out money. sounds more like a scheme to get you to give them more money to me.
no, compensation would mean actually losing a bit so that everyone's happy, instead of just simply trying to make money off the deal. throwing some money into everyone's wallet at the PS store - so they could keep their games - would do that. I'm sure that was too big of a hit for them to take, though, even though they're the ones to screw up.
I got nothing out of their "compensation." most of my friends that play PS3 didn't either. we all would have, y'know, liked something worthwhile instead of some underhanded crap.
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historygeek5 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have a dsi so i really don't need one! But i think i will not purchase the vita if sony will not fix the issues!
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KageRyu798 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This makes me laugh.
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UltimaLOL Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
The PS vita sounds very pricey. >< I don't think I can buy one. D:
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kjnjkmjk1 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
At this rate, Sony will fall out of the market faster than Microsoft, which is dumb, since Microsoft doesn't have a handheld, and the XBOX 360 is beat by the PS3 by popular opinion.
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